A Civilian Cup Hilt

CSinTX · 9th May 2017, 03:39 AM

I've had this one for a while but just got around to taking pictures. It's very fast in the hand and feels closer to a small sword. All thoughts are welcome. Similar examples of the same style would be appreciated.

fernando · 9th May 2017, 01:47 PM

Would this be Italian ? No marks ?
What are the blade and total lengths ?

CSinTX · 10th May 2017, 03:31 AM

No marks unfortunately. I was thinking Italian but not sure. It measures about 112cm.

fernando · 10th May 2017, 10:15 AM

Well, it is not that long but also not too short, judging by what we see out there, as also by the few i have.
If i knew enough of these things, i would not excude the Spanish posssibility, until further and better assumptions. After all, Toledan smiths also made pierced cup hilts (taza calada). Also that 'rompe puntas' and that stylised 'guarda polvo' could fit into Spanish fashion.

9th May 2017, 03:39 AM	#1
CSinTX Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 232	A Civilian Cup Hilt I've had this one for a while but just got around to taking pictures. It's very fast in the hand and feels closer to a small sword. All thoughts are welcome. Similar examples of the same style would be appreciated. Attached Images

9th May 2017, 01:47 PM	#2
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,638	Would this be Italian ? No marks ? What are the blade and total lengths ?

10th May 2017, 03:31 AM	#3
CSinTX Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 232	No marks unfortunately. I was thinking Italian but not sure. It measures about 112cm.

10th May 2017, 10:15 AM	#4
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,638	Well, it is not that long but also not too short, judging by what we see out there, as also by the few i have. If i knew enough of these things, i would not excude the Spanish posssibility, until further and better assumptions. After all, Toledan smiths also made pierced cup hilts (taza calada). Also that 'rompe puntas' and that stylised 'guarda polvo' could fit into Spanish fashion.