Two Tulwars For Comment

Lew · 5th November 2006, 09:12 PM

This question is for Jens. I bought these a few years back and would like to see if I can get some more information on them markings,age and region. The top sword has some type of inserted edged blade with a T shaped spine and the bottom sword has traces of wootz patterning in a few spots.

Lew

katana · 5th November 2006, 11:07 PM

Very nice Tulwars Lew......envious

Jens Nordlunde · 6th November 2006, 01:01 PM

Hi Lew,

I am really not very good at judging weapons from pictures, I prefer to have them in my hand, but let me try.

The hilt on the first one is interesting, fluted grips are seen before, but they are not common – is it silver? Do I guess correctly if I say there is a flower on top of the disc?
The blade looks nice, and I can see two eyelashes with three dots at each end, however there seem to be something more closer to the hilt, but I can’t see it clearly – what is it?
The blade must be broad, but not necessarily heavy, as the ‘T’ spine will help stiffen the blade. You don’t write anything about wootz, so I suppose it is not watered. I thinbk I see a ricasso, but I am not sure. I think the blade is Indian, and it could be older than the hilt, although I am not sure.
My guess would be Rajasthan, 18th to early 19th century.

The hilt of the second tulwar is not so easy to see, I think it may have a flower on top of the disc, but I am less certain than with the first one – does it have a flower?
Very nice blade with deep stamps, which must have been made while it was hot, as it would not be possible to make them so deep on a cold blade. Have you had the stamps translated? Does the blade have a ricasso? Also here I think the blade could be older than the hilt.
I am not sure from where it is, early 19th century.

Here is what I think, do you, or anyone else have better guesses?

Lew · 6th November 2006, 03:27 PM

Jens

The silver hilted one has a sun burst or flower type design the other tulwar I can't quite remember right now I will take a few close ups of the hilt. The tulwar with the deep stuck stamps has no riccasso.

Lew

Jens Nordlunde · 6th November 2006, 05:23 PM

Yes i know Lew, almost like this one.
Don't you have any more comments to my questions?

Lew · 6th November 2006, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

Yes i know Lew, almost like this one.
Don't you have any more comments to my questions?

Yes

The fluted hilt seems to be silver overlay. What is the significance of the blade having or not having a riccasso? The top sword is not wootz but it does seem to have an inserted edge so it must be some type of lamination?

Lew

5th November 2006, 09:12 PM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Two Tulwars For Comment This question is for Jens. I bought these a few years back and would like to see if I can get some more information on them markings,age and region. The top sword has some type of inserted edged blade with a T shaped spine and the bottom sword has traces of wootz patterning in a few spots. Lew Attached Images

6th November 2006, 05:23 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	Yes i know Lew, almost like this one. Don't you have any more comments to my questions? Attached Images

5th November 2006, 11:07 PM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Very nice Tulwars Lew......envious

6th November 2006, 01:01 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	Hi Lew, I am really not very good at judging weapons from pictures, I prefer to have them in my hand, but let me try. The hilt on the first one is interesting, fluted grips are seen before, but they are not common – is it silver? Do I guess correctly if I say there is a flower on top of the disc? The blade looks nice, and I can see two eyelashes with three dots at each end, however there seem to be something more closer to the hilt, but I can’t see it clearly – what is it? The blade must be broad, but not necessarily heavy, as the ‘T’ spine will help stiffen the blade. You don’t write anything about wootz, so I suppose it is not watered. I thinbk I see a ricasso, but I am not sure. I think the blade is Indian, and it could be older than the hilt, although I am not sure. My guess would be Rajasthan, 18th to early 19th century. The hilt of the second tulwar is not so easy to see, I think it may have a flower on top of the disc, but I am less certain than with the first one – does it have a flower? Very nice blade with deep stamps, which must have been made while it was hot, as it would not be possible to make them so deep on a cold blade. Have you had the stamps translated? Does the blade have a ricasso? Also here I think the blade could be older than the hilt. I am not sure from where it is, early 19th century. Here is what I think, do you, or anyone else have better guesses?

6th November 2006, 03:27 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Jens The silver hilted one has a sun burst or flower type design the other tulwar I can't quite remember right now I will take a few close ups of the hilt. The tulwar with the deep stuck stamps has no riccasso. Lew