Sword belt hanger

Evgeny_K · 18th February 2014, 08:02 AM

gents,
could you help to date this item ?
looks like sword/saber belt hanger

Evgeny_K · 3rd March 2014, 08:32 AM

VANDOO · 3rd March 2014, 07:19 PM

ARTEFACTS SUCH AS THIS ARE OFTEN VERY DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY EVEN BY THOSE EXPERT IN THE PARTICULAR FIELD. SO I AM AT A COMPLETE LOSS

BUT WILL HAZZARD A FEW OBSERVATIONS

THE OBJECT APPEARS TO BE BRONZE AND IF THERE IS ROOM TO PASS A BELT OR CLOTH SASH THRU THE OPENING AT THE BACK IT COULD WELL BE SOME SORT OF HANGER FOR CARRING SOMETHING PERHAPS A SWORD. YOU WILL HAVE TO DO COMPARISONS WITH PROVANANCED ITEMS ON THE DESIGNS ON THE ITEM AS THE BEST WAY TO GET AN ESTIMATE ON ITS AGE AND CULTURE. PERHAPS INDIA ?? IF YOU KNOW THE CULTURE IT CAME FROM AND THE ORIGIN OF THE FIND, THAT WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD PLACE TO START. IF ARCHEOLOGICAL INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE FROM A DIG SITE IT SHOULD PROVIDE A GOOD ESTIMATE OF AGE AND CULTURE. A NEAT LOOKING ITEM GOOD LUCK.

Evgeny_K · 4th March 2014, 07:13 AM

Thank you, VANDOO!
It was excavated in central part of Russia in place, captured by the troops of False Dmitry II (1607).
The man on the "sword belt hanger" holds the sword in his arm, so I decided that it relates to military equipment.
Regards,
Evgeny

fernando · 4th March 2014, 02:38 PM

Athough the pictures appear to be magnified, the comparing tape looks like a metric one. So with an opening of 30 m/m this would hardly be that of a sword hanging devixe ... although not impossible

Military ... most certainly

18th February 2014, 08:02 AM	#1
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 206	Sword belt hanger gents, could you help to date this item ? looks like sword/saber belt hanger Attached Images

3rd March 2014, 08:32 AM	#2
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 206

3rd March 2014, 07:19 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	ARTEFACTS SUCH AS THIS ARE OFTEN VERY DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY EVEN BY THOSE EXPERT IN THE PARTICULAR FIELD. SO I AM AT A COMPLETE LOSS BUT WILL HAZZARD A FEW OBSERVATIONS THE OBJECT APPEARS TO BE BRONZE AND IF THERE IS ROOM TO PASS A BELT OR CLOTH SASH THRU THE OPENING AT THE BACK IT COULD WELL BE SOME SORT OF HANGER FOR CARRING SOMETHING PERHAPS A SWORD. YOU WILL HAVE TO DO COMPARISONS WITH PROVANANCED ITEMS ON THE DESIGNS ON THE ITEM AS THE BEST WAY TO GET AN ESTIMATE ON ITS AGE AND CULTURE. PERHAPS INDIA ?? IF YOU KNOW THE CULTURE IT CAME FROM AND THE ORIGIN OF THE FIND, THAT WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD PLACE TO START. IF ARCHEOLOGICAL INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE FROM A DIG SITE IT SHOULD PROVIDE A GOOD ESTIMATE OF AGE AND CULTURE. A NEAT LOOKING ITEM GOOD LUCK.

4th March 2014, 07:13 AM	#4
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 206	Thank you, VANDOO! It was excavated in central part of Russia in place, captured by the troops of False Dmitry II (1607). The man on the "sword belt hanger" holds the sword in his arm, so I decided that it relates to military equipment. Regards, Evgeny

4th March 2014, 02:38 PM	#5
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,642	Athough the pictures appear to be magnified, the comparing tape looks like a metric one. So with an opening of 30 m/m this would hardly be that of a sword hanging devixe ... although not impossible Military ... most certainly