Ethics and Policies

guwaya · 20th December 2009, 07:55 AM

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Alan :

Do you mean Martin Kerner's statistical analysis contains error?

I could not find that error. I would be very grateful if when you have the text of his work at hand, you could direct me to the erroneous section.

I definitely will do - it will last - but you will get it.

guwaya

A. G. Maisey · 22nd December 2009, 05:07 AM

Thanks Guwaya.

Please bear in mind:-

I am talking about only the statistical work, not the conclusions that Martin Kerner drew from that work.

I am not a mathematician, so I had Martin Kerner's compilations and calculations reviewed by a mathematician some years ago, and it was given a clean bill of health by this person. In fact, I would have been surprised if his calculations had been incorrect, as I understand that in his professional life he was either a statistician or mathematician who had been in charge of the Swiss govt. organisation responsible for Swiss weights and measures.

However, I will welcome any identification of error that you can point out in Martin Kerner's statistical work, as in my opinion this analysis is too important to be tainted by error, and your identification of this error will permit us to carry out the necessary corrections.

Gavin Nugent · 22nd December 2009, 01:57 PM

A questiona about the future,

As I have noted in an earlier entry I deal.
How would it be clearly proposed that if I for example presented a kris for comment and discussion and then found something more personal to me and wished to sell this Kris to buy what I desired more....By what approach would be considered suitable by staff to sell this Kris now? Would if be in the form of a public announcement or a case of tough love mate, wait the 3 months or be booted? Or would it be recommended that I don't show and tell Keris at all so the motions do not have to be actioned thus depriving the forum of somethings that may never be seen otherwise???

Gav

David · 22nd December 2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebooter

How would it be clearly proposed that if I for example presented a kris for comment and discussion and then found something more personal to me and wished to sell this Kris to buy what I desired more....By what approach would be considered suitable by staff to sell this Kris now? Would if be in the form of a public announcement or a case of tough love mate, wait the 3 months or be booted? Or would it be recommended that I don't show and tell Keris at all so the motions do not have to be actioned thus depriving the forum of somethings that may never be seen otherwise???

We are still working out the details Gav, but first of all, the moratorium on sale will only apply to the Swap forum. We cannot keep you from selling your keris on your website, eBay or anywhere else. You won't be able to make a link to your sale in the Swap, but other venues of sale will remain open to you.
We can and will ask that you don't use statements made by members here to support your sale at these other sites without the express permission of those members.
I also doubt that the time frame will be anywhere near as long as 90 days.
I think we will ask that if you do put something up for sale somewhere that has been discussed on the forum that you alert the moderators first so that we can lock that thread since we cannot have discussion of items that are currently up for sale.

Rick · 22nd December 2009, 04:17 PM

Gav,
We will most likely have a separate forum for keris sales *only* in The Warung section of this site .

If you list a keris there you will agree to a certain amount of exclusive time (10 days ? currently undecided) before you may list it elsewhere .

We are also likely to revamp the dealer links page .

As has been mentioned before there will be some changes coming to Swap for the other forums as well .

Gavin Nugent · 22nd December 2009, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

I also doubt that the time frame will be anywhere near as long as 90 days.
I think we will ask that if you do put something up for sale somewhere that has been discussed on the forum that you alert the moderators first so that we can lock that thread since we cannot have discussion of items that are currently up for sale.

Thank you David, thank you Rick.

A quick question as I cannot see it in the sticky, the question of "for sale" items not being discussed. I thought this was the case but I can only see reference to live auctions noted in the sticky, can you point me to the straight "For sale" quotes.

Thanks

Gav

Edit; I have read the whole sticky again and I see the second last post by Lee mentions it very quickly, perhaps it can be more clearly noted, I am sure moderators can edit any post from any time.

Rick · 22nd December 2009, 10:34 PM

We're working on that Gav, the devil is in the details .
In the meantime I advise all to carefully read the thread in Swap .

Dr Jones has Swap changes of his own in mind; I am not privy to them at this point .

Until then; business as usual; Staff will be taking notes though .

We have been all along .

20th December 2009, 07:55 AM	#1
guwaya Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 45	[/QUOTE] Alan : Do you mean Martin Kerner's statistical analysis contains error? I could not find that error. I would be very grateful if when you have the text of his work at hand, you could direct me to the erroneous section. I definitely will do - it will last - but you will get it. guwaya Last edited by guwaya; 20th December 2009 at 10:46 AM.

22nd December 2009, 01:57 PM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	A question about the future A questiona about the future, As I have noted in an earlier entry I deal. How would it be clearly proposed that if I for example presented a kris for comment and discussion and then found something more personal to me and wished to sell this Kris to buy what I desired more....By what approach would be considered suitable by staff to sell this Kris now? Would if be in the form of a public announcement or a case of tough love mate, wait the 3 months or be booted? Or would it be recommended that I don't show and tell Keris at all so the motions do not have to be actioned thus depriving the forum of somethings that may never be seen otherwise??? Gav

22nd December 2009, 05:07 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,762	Thanks Guwaya. Please bear in mind:- I am talking about only the statistical work, not the conclusions that Martin Kerner drew from that work. I am not a mathematician, so I had Martin Kerner's compilations and calculations reviewed by a mathematician some years ago, and it was given a clean bill of health by this person. In fact, I would have been surprised if his calculations had been incorrect, as I understand that in his professional life he was either a statistician or mathematician who had been in charge of the Swiss govt. organisation responsible for Swiss weights and measures. However, I will welcome any identification of error that you can point out in Martin Kerner's statistical work, as in my opinion this analysis is too important to be tainted by error, and your identification of this error will permit us to carry out the necessary corrections.

22nd December 2009, 04:17 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,268	Gav, We will most likely have a separate forum for keris sales only in The Warung section of this site . If you list a keris there you will agree to a certain amount of exclusive time (10 days ? currently undecided) before you may list it elsewhere . We are also likely to revamp the dealer links page . As has been mentioned before there will be some changes coming to Swap for the other forums as well .

22nd December 2009, 10:34 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,268	We're working on that Gav, the devil is in the details . In the meantime I advise all to carefully read the thread in Swap . Dr Jones has Swap changes of his own in mind; I am not privy to them at this point . Until then; business as usual; Staff will be taking notes though . We have been all along .