4th December 2020, 02:44 PM | #1 |
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help with devangari inscription
hello forum members.
I need your assistance in deciphering this inscription, which I believe is devanagari. I have picked out a few words such as 'sri baldev ji sahai' and 'samvat'. Is anyone able to assist with this? much appreciated! images are attached. there seems to be some date at the end? especially since 'samvat' is written before it... |
4th December 2020, 05:19 PM | #2 |
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I can't help you with the translation however i've spotted a tulwar with identical koftgari work and similar characters, perhaps it could help you with translation?
Sorry i can't be of more use. |
4th December 2020, 06:31 PM | #3 |
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Hi psingh.
Welcome to the forum. Would you please post a picture of the entire sword, as noted in the sticky at the top of this forum's page. Ian. |
6th December 2020, 02:29 PM | #4 |
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A friend in India has helped with translating the text.
Shri Baldevji Sahay Rup Singh Sangawat Samb(v)at 1911. Shri Baldevji is the Deva to whom obseience is paid. Rup Singh is obviously the ownern of the piece who belongs to the Sangawat Rajput clan. Samvat is V.S. the Northern Hindu year. The year looks crudely done (maybe a local variant of numerals) VS 1911 So this is around 1855 AD. I have a tulwar from Alwar/Ulwar with a closely related text dated VS 1856 - 1799-1800 AD. Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 6th December 2020 at 02:46 PM. |
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Might you/anyone know who rup singh sangawat was?
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thanks jens! that is very helpful.
I will post pics of the full sword, just finishing them off, e.g. editing etc anyone have an idea of who Rup Singh Sangawat might be? |
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In the best case it is possible that such swords belonged to the rajah's servants or officers. |
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So this definitely doesn't look like a servant sword hilt. Last edited by mariusgmioc; 3rd January 2021 at 08:17 PM. |
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See: "Shri Baldevji Sahay Rup Singh Sangawat Samb(v)at 1911. Shri Baldevji is the Deva to whom obseience is paid. Rup Singh is obviously the ownern of the piece who belongs to the Sangawat Rajput clan." |
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I just wanted to point out that we need to be careful with such inscriptions on the hilt. |
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4th January 2021, 12:02 AM | #14 |
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Had it been inscribed with the name of Shah Jahan , we could have been rightfully skeptical.
But Rup Singh? Some functionary so minor, that nobody even knows his name or place on the totem pole? I wouldn’t doubt his ownership of this sword or his subservient position to Sri Baldev Ji. BTW, who was this Sri Baldev Ji? :-))) |
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maybe baldev is referring to balarama? the older brother of krishna who was also referred to as baladeva? |
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Baldev, Baidyanath ... are different representations of Shiva. |
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