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Old 31st October 2020, 01:51 AM   #1
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From the photos it's hard for me to tell what the approximate dimensions are. Question: is the grip long enough to get a comfortable hold on, without the iron protrusions of the "pommel" area digging into the hand? Reason I ask is that I wonder if this hilt was designed for talismanic or symbolic purposes.

The blade seems beefy enough to do some damage, though. How long is it?

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Hey Philip,

The grip is not quite long enough to accommodate my hand. The protrusions sort of dig into my hand so I agree it most likely has some type of talismanic or sumbolic purpose. The blade is only 22" long but it is 2 1/4" wide at the forte.
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Old 1st November 2020, 06:30 PM   #2
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Just to add my two cents on the takouba similarities, the takouba scabbards are actually really different in construction and materials. Morel describes them extensively in his article on the Tuareg sword, and states that they are made of leather only, in multiple glued layers. No stitching is used in the making of those scabbards (see picture).
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Old 4th November 2020, 10:58 AM   #3
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Just to add my two cents on the takouba similarities, the takouba scabbards are actually really different in construction and materials. Morel describes them extensively in his article on the Tuareg sword, and states that they are made of leather only, in multiple glued layers. No stitching is used in the making of those scabbards (see picture).

Thank you so much Yvain for this excellent insight into takouba scabbards.
It is outstanding to have these details from these sources which are not only typically not readily accessible to us here, but that they are in French so that also presents a certain barrier.

As being discussed, this most curious example seems to be from Dongolan regions in the Sudan, but frankly defies any indication of use other than symbolic or perhaps some sort of tribal ceremonial item as Philip has suggested in earlier entry here.
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Could it have a use as some sort of peg or stake?
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Old 5th November 2020, 04:13 PM   #5
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Could it have a use as some sort of peg or stake?
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Interesting suggestion Richard!
While the fact that it is with scabbard would of course suggest it is not such an 'implement', one wonders if in Taureg culture or any of the nomadic groups of North Africa that perhaps even such an item might be afforded apotropaic imbuement.

The elements of the tribal tents are often in one degree or another, with symbolic value or with perhaps some talismanic virtue, much as we see applied to weapons in motif and markings.

It would be interesting to look more into these aspects of the materials used by these tribal people and the manner in which these symbolisms might be applied.
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