Keris luk 9 - inviting comments

Jean · 15th August 2019, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Jean, I do not have the book you mention, but it would make no difference if did, I always try, insofar as possible to follow the Surakarta line.
If you care to go through the Surakarta Pakem and match the various forms and the names given these forms, to common belief, you will find that more than one Surakarta dhapur varies from common belief. Does this mean that the Surakarta Pakem is often wrong, or does it mean that other people and other writers are often wrong?

Hello Alan,
This is the book in question (my favourite reference about dapur types) and it should constitute or be in line with the Surakarta Pakem which you mention.
I recommend this book to all the members who do not own it yet.
Regards

A. G. Maisey · 15th August 2019, 09:35 AM

Yes, you're right Jean, speed kills. No sogokan, I should have checked before rushing into print.

What you call the "Dhapur" book, I call the Surakarta Pakem. Its the same book.

Actually, many years ago, some time in the 1980's, I was offered the original of this book with all the hand drawn illustrations and hand written notes, it is a very big book. The price was way beyond me, but I was permitted to borrow it and photograph the pages.

I guess I'd have to go with "diluar pakem", which is the usual for these more recent keris. Pity.

Incidentally, the "greneng above the KK" is called a "jenggot", a beard.

15th August 2019, 09:35 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,763	Yes, you're right Jean, speed kills. No sogokan, I should have checked before rushing into print. What you call the "Dhapur" book, I call the Surakarta Pakem. Its the same book. Actually, many years ago, some time in the 1980's, I was offered the original of this book with all the hand drawn illustrations and hand written notes, it is a very big book. The price was way beyond me, but I was permitted to borrow it and photograph the pages. I guess I'd have to go with "diluar pakem", which is the usual for these more recent keris. Pity. Incidentally, the "greneng above the KK" is called a "jenggot", a beard.