Mandau, it's not! What is it??

[Amuk Murugul]

Originally Posted by Sajen

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Any comments?

Hullo Detlef,

It's a Hivan/Iban Isaw; looks like a more "recent" model; thickness of blade at the tang for such a model would be <1cm (about half that of the "older" model).

Ref. item #7: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=njaboer

Hope it helps.
Best,

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

It's a Hivan/Iban Isaw; looks like a more "recent" model; thickness of blade at the tang for such a model would be <1cm (about half that of the "older" model).

Ref. item #7: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=njaboer

Hope it helps.

Thank you Amuk! So it's like stated from Michael an Iban sword. May I ask you from where you get the term "Isaw" for this type of swords? That it is more recent would also be confirmed by the date from the coins. Will post the thickness of the blade near the handle soon as it has arrived at it's destination. Thank you again!

Regards,
Detlef

[Amuk Murugul]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Thank you Amuk! So it's like stated from Michael an Iban sword. May I ask you from where you get the term "Isaw" for this type of swords? That it is more recent would also be confirmed by the date from the coins. Will post the thickness of the blade near the handle soon as it has arrived at it's destination. Thank you again!

Regards,
Detlef

YW Detlef ..... My source is the people who used them.
As for the coins (I used to be a passionate numismatist in a previous life), they appear to be (can't be too sure from the photo) pre-RepublikIndonesia coins(see attached example). Please judge for yourself.

BTW ..... the obverse of the example states : Netherlands Indies while the reverse side has two scripts, Soenda (outer) and Djawi (inner). Both state: 1/10 roepiah.(I'm a bit rusty on this, so please excuse any mistake).

Best,

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

YW Detlef ..... My source is the people who used them.
As for the coins (I used to be a passionate numismatist in a previous life), they appear to be (can't be too sure from the photo) pre-RepublikIndonesia coins(see attached example). Please judge for yourself.

BTW ..... the obverse of the example states : Netherlands Indies while the reverse side has two scripts, Soenda (outer) and Djawi (inner). Both state: 1/10 roepiah.(I'm a bit rusty on this, so please excuse any mistake).

Thank you again Amuk,

I really think that you are very correct by all observations. The sword I've posted seems indeed from very recent manufacture and I think that the coins are similar to the one you have shown, I know this coins from own handling many times before.
The blade is 0,25 Inch (0,6 cm) thick near the handle!
And thank you again for proving a "name" for this type of swords. Do you know also which use was given to this swords?

Regards,
Detlef

[Amuk Murugul]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Thank you again Amuk,

...... Do you know also which use was given to this swords?

Regards,
Detlef

Hullo Detlef,

Thanks for your response.(I was just about to go offline )
The isaw was the precursor to the njaboer. It was their implement before they were driven out by the Kajaan/Kenjah. They only got the njaboer after their interaction with the Bandjar while they were in "exile", prior to their returning to assert themselves.

Best,

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Thanks for your response.(I was just about to go offline )
The isaw was the precursor to the njaboer. It was their implement before they were driven out by the Kajaan/Kenjah. They only got the njaboer after their interaction with the Banjar while they were in "exile", prior to their returning to assert themselves.

Hello Amuk,

Great given informations! Thank you again!

Regards,
Detlef

[Amuk Murugul]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Amuk,

Great given informations! Thank you again!

Regards,
Detlef

Hullo Detlef,

YW.
Glad it is of some use to you.

Tschau,

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

YW Detlef As for the coins (I used to be a passionate numismatist in a previous life), they appear to be (can't be too sure from the photo) pre-RepublikIndonesia coins(see attached example). Please judge for yourself.

BTW ..... the obverse of the example states : Netherlands Indies while the reverse side has two scripts, Soenda (outer) and Djawi (inner). Both state: 1/10 roepiah.(I'm a bit rusty on this, so please excuse any mistake).

Yes, you are correct regarding the coins, here some pictures from the attached coins.