My gunong collection and some thoughts

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by russel

Another nice one Detlef, congratulations.

Thank you Russel!

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kronckew

i love gunongs,
my favourite lives on the nigghtstand next to the bed.

justincase

For "this" case I have a long blade! Are the mounts from silver or aluminium?

Regards,
Detlef

[Rick]

Originally Posted by kronckew

i love gunongs,
my favourite lives on the nigghtstand next to the bed.

justincase

If Justincase came through the door I think I'd rather just shoot the bastard .

[Robert]

If Justincase came through the door I think I'd rather just shoot the bastard .

My exact sentiments as well Rick.

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by Robert

Very nice addition Detlef. You are starting to acquire quite the collection of these. You need to start showing a family group photo every once in awhile too.

Kronckew, I've a "justincase" too. Though not as pretty as yours it does hold 15 rounds.

Best,
Robert

i used to have a 1911 colt .45 acp mk. IV series 70 in a shoulder holster hanging on the bedpost when i was last living in the states. and a 12 ga. pump riot gun with an extended mag under the bed. my then wife had my s&w 6in.model 66 in the nightstand drawer on her side. (she got custody of it when we split).

i didn't need 15 rounds

and my group photo:

[Rick]

With that grouping you'd only need one .

[Sajen]

Have etched the blade of the in post #19 shown gunong, it shows a nice lamination.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Another one which will enter the family soon.

Have received the gunong, it's a very big one, 36 cm inside scabbard with a blade lenght from 23,5 cm. Fittings are from silver but poorly done. The blade wasn't plated and after a quick polish and etch it show a beautiful lamination. Will show pictures later at the day and also a group picture.

[Robert]

Will show pictures later at the day and also a group picture.

Great, looking forward to seeing your little family all together.

Best,
Robert

[Sajen]

Here the "new" one.

[Sajen]

some close up's!

[Sajen]

And here the family portrait, like you see is Paula very interested by gunongs!

[Robert]

Great little family of gunongs you have put together Detlef, but it seems to me that one is missing though. Didn't you have one with an ivory hilt that Jose did some restoration work on? Even being rather on the large size I still like the proportions and finish of your latest find. Quite a few of the larger ones that I have seen seem to be exaggerated in their features (bulky with harsh angles) while this one stays true to form. If we ever get a day with decent lighting I will post a photo or two of my very limited collection of gunongs to add to this thread. Thank you for sharing these with us.

Best,
Robert

[Spunjer]

there's something about gunongs: they are so simple, yet so elegant. nice set you got there, Detlef! on the latest member of your family, i really love the lamination pattern on that one! very, very controlled! if you don't mind me asking, what did you use as an etchant for it? one of this days, i will try to etch my gunongs just to see if they're laminated or not. i guess i just take them for granted which i shouldn't...

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Robert

Great little family of gunongs you have put together Detlef, but it seems to me that one is missing though. Didn't you have one with an ivory hilt that Jose did some restoration work on? Even being rather on the large size I still like the proportions and finish of your latest find. Quite a few of the larger ones that I have seen seem to be exaggerated in their features (bulky with harsh angles) while this one stays true to form. If we ever get a day with decent lighting I will post a photo or two of my very limited collection of gunongs to add to this thread. Thank you for sharing these with us.

Best,
Robert

Hello Robert,

thank you and yes, one is still by Jose. And you are correct, the "new" one is surely worked for use and I would place it around 1930. It's a real fighter.
Curious to see your collection of gunongs.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

there's something about gunongs: they are so simple, yet so elegant. nice set you got there, Detlef! on the latest member of your family, i really love the lamination pattern on that one! very, very controlled! if you don't mind me asking, what did you use as an etchant for it? one of this days, i will try to etch my gunongs just to see if they're laminated or not. i guess i just take them for granted which i shouldn't...

Thank you Ron,

and I agree with you, it's a very controlled lamination, never thought to find it by this gunong. I've used a mixture from vinegar concentrate and citric acid mixed with water (20/80 %). Don't worry, I think that minimum 50% of all gunong blades are laminated.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Here the pictures of the restored gunong from this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=gunong

Jose have done a remarkable job. The blade isn't laminated.

[kronckew]

minor point: the grip is on upside down. other than that, good job.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kronckew

minor point: the grip is on upside down. other than that, good job.

My first thought as well, good observation. But the blade fit only in this position inside the scabbard. And have a look to the sheathed knife, this is the way they look when inside scabbard. Maybe Jose can add his thoughts about this.

Regards,
Detlef

[Battara]

Not sure why the blade was made "upside down" but this is what is it. The other unusual aspect is the way the scabbard was made. The okir style and the manner of execution do not seem to me to be as "professional" as other examples. I wonder if the artisan was Lumad or part Lumad, even though the motifs are Moro (perhaps Maguindanao).

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

Not sure why the blade was made "upside down" but this is what is it. The other unusual aspect is the way the scabbard was made. The okir style and the manner of execution do not seem to me to be as "professional" as other examples. I wonder if the artisan was Lumad or part Lumad, even though the motifs are Moro (perhaps Maguindanao).

Thank you Jose. Will take some close ups from the scabbard tomorrow by daylight that the others can see what you mean.

Regards,
Detlef

[David]

Sorry, i don't understand what you mean by "upside down" Wayne. Do you mean that the handle bend is facing in the wrong direction. If so, while most seem to bend in a similar way i have seen a few that go the other way. I don't know if this is because of a left-handed use or what.

[kronckew]

in the wavy gunong and kris the point faces slighly down away from the center line as does the pommel. in the examples shown on the forum here this is true. on yours it is assembled so when the pommel points down, the point er, points up.

a little photoshopping to illustrate, plus my kris:

[Battara]

As I said, either this one is an aberration, or the artisan may not have been Moro.

[kronckew]

a possibility. as long as you are satisfied with it. a minor aberration. makes it more unusual.

[Battara]

When I tried reversing the blade, it didn't fit into the scabbard well nor would it fit the handle well. What you see not only is the best fit but seems to be the original fit and orientation.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

The other unusual aspect is the way the scabbard was made. The okir style and the manner of execution do not seem to me to be as "professional" as other examples. I wonder if the artisan was Lumad or part Lumad, even though the motifs are Moro (perhaps Maguindanao).

Here a close up from the okir work at the scabbard.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

When I tried reversing the blade, it didn't fit into the scabbard well nor would it fit the handle well. What you see not only is the best fit but seems to be the original fit and orientation.

Here some pictures which show from up to down a.: the fit now inside the scabbard, b.: like it is normally (no perfect fit), and c.: a close up from this

[Sajen]

After I was outbid 2012 by this one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=gunong I was now able to acquire a nearly similar gunong, maybe from the same workshop, not antique, maybe WWII area, but very good worked IMHO.
Here are the pictures from the seller. Will post some more pictures when I have received it and have given it some maintenance.

[Sajen]

Here both side by side for comparison.