halberd chinese???

kronckew · 8th July 2013, 09:51 AM

the 2.75 inch tang seems rather short for a hewing weapon.

Gavin Nugent · 8th July 2013, 10:30 AM

I suspect more mainland SEA for the origians rather than China.

If China proper, I'd typically expect a socket fit.

Regards

Gavin

Timo Nieminen · 8th July 2013, 10:57 AM

Doesn't look Chinese to me. My first two guesses would be Thai and Indian. Followed by Philippines and Indonesia.

For precedents, rather than Chinese ge/ji, how about the Japanese hoko? (The more modern (i.e., Medieval and Edo) hoko, which is a spear with side hook/blade, rather than the ancient hoko, which was just an ordinary spear.) Some examples in Stone, and also in Knutsen (Japanese Polearms & Japanese Spears). AKA kata-kama-yari.

josh stout · 13th July 2013, 09:14 PM

To me it looks like it might almost be African. Either way, the tang has not been peened and there is no other method of attachment, so I would guess it is a ceremonial or tourist piece that was hammered into a pole without being further secured.
Josh

Gavin Nugent · 14th July 2013, 05:27 AM

An astute reader has pointed out to me that these are Vietnamese and are shown in the Hanoi museum.

Gavin

weapons 27 · 14th July 2013, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwordsAntiqueWeapons

An astute reader has pointed out to me that these are Vietnamese and are shown in the Hanoi museum.

Gavin

ok
thank gavin

josh stout · 31st July 2013, 07:54 PM

Gavin-

I believe your assessment but I find it confusing. I have a few Vietnamese pieces and they are rather more refined than the appearance on this one.

What do you think accounts for the crude look

Josh

8th July 2013, 09:51 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,154	the 2.75 inch tang seems rather short for a hewing weapon.

8th July 2013, 10:30 AM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	I suspect more mainland SEA for the origians rather than China. If China proper, I'd typically expect a socket fit. Regards Gavin

8th July 2013, 10:57 AM	#3
Timo Nieminen Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 422	Doesn't look Chinese to me. My first two guesses would be Thai and Indian. Followed by Philippines and Indonesia. For precedents, rather than Chinese ge/ji, how about the Japanese hoko? (The more modern (i.e., Medieval and Edo) hoko, which is a spear with side hook/blade, rather than the ancient hoko, which was just an ordinary spear.) Some examples in Stone, and also in Knutsen (Japanese Polearms & Japanese Spears). AKA kata-kama-yari.

13th July 2013, 09:14 PM	#4
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	To me it looks like it might almost be African. Either way, the tang has not been peened and there is no other method of attachment, so I would guess it is a ceremonial or tourist piece that was hammered into a pole without being further secured. Josh

14th July 2013, 05:27 AM	#5
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	An astute reader has pointed out to me that these are Vietnamese and are shown in the Hanoi museum. Gavin

31st July 2013, 07:54 PM	#7
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	Gavin- I believe your assessment but I find it confusing. I have a few Vietnamese pieces and they are rather more refined than the appearance on this one. What do you think accounts for the crude look Josh