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|  6th March 2017, 05:20 AM | #1 | 
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				 |  Is this kilij real? 
			
			It ended on E-Bay for ~$1250. Advertised as "antique... with possibly real silver crossguard" I have a very uneasy feeling about it: 1. Wooden handle with no signs of usage and with reddish traces of wood stain in the incisions 2. The crossguard is extremely crude: I haven't seen real Ottoman or Iranian ones of such poor quality 3. My main concern is with the blade: it is pitted and patinated, but the "golden" inscriptions on top of all that crud are perfectly intact. Overall, it looks to me like a very modern Syrian creation. Am I being paranoid? | 
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|  6th March 2017, 06:14 AM | #2 | 
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			Of course not real. It's being discussed here before. They started making them in Turkey circa early 21st Century  Not a single part is antique here, nor gold or silver, not even "inlay" is real. | 
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|  6th March 2017, 06:16 AM | #3 | 
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			Made two days ago and antiqued yesterday
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|  17th March 2017, 08:42 PM | #5 | 
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			this has to be either form India or Syria, fake of course. In turkey I dont think make swords like these..there is no market for them with this type of calligraphy..in my opinion..
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|  17th March 2017, 11:29 PM | #6 | 
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			They make them in India.     | 
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|  18th March 2017, 04:07 PM | #7 | |
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|  18th March 2017, 09:05 PM | #8 | 
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				 |  Fake swords 
			
			These  very cheaply produced Turkish Swords ??? were all made in Syria and the Turkish market was fıloded with the same.Initially going prices were 50 US dollars a piece but later  such prices have risen to 000 s until the war break up in Syria.Some European  Auction houses even put some of these in their catalogues whether knowingly or not as genuine.
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