Spanish?

Yannis · 24th October 2005, 09:39 PM

Hi all. The black sheep is back in the flock.

My public apologies because I had caused a great deal of upset to the moderators.

Sometimes you cannot avoid history when you talk about weapons. I don’t continue because they will lock the thread again.

To the blades now.
I suppose this is a Spanish dagger. Please tell me if I am right and please guess its age. There is something strange in a hole in the blade. The blade is plated (I think later).

Battara · 24th October 2005, 10:00 PM

Yes, I would guess Spanish, certainly Mediterranean coast of Spain, Corisica, more Spain.

carlos · 24th October 2005, 11:03 PM

YES, IT´S FROM SPAIN, FROM THE CITY OF ALBACETE. THERE ARE A TYPICAL SPANISH KNIFE FROM THIS AREA.I THINK IT´S FROM THE FIRST OF 19 CENTURY.
IN THE BOOK " ARMAS BLANCAS EN ESPAÑA", OF RAFAEL OCETE RUBIO APPEARS ONE VERY SIMILAR, PAG 91. HE CALLS LIKE "KNIVES FROM ALBACETE TYPE B".

Rich · 24th October 2005, 11:17 PM

Carlos -

I've heard that these were sometimes used as plug bayonets, any
truth to that? I've one also, although considerably less ornate.

Rich

carlos · 25th October 2005, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

Carlos -

I've heard that these were sometimes used as plug bayonets, any
truth to that? I've one also, although considerably less ornate.

Rich

HELLO RICH!
I THINK THIS KNIFE WAS ONLY MADE FOR GENERAL USE OR FOR HUNTING. THERE ARE A KNIFE THAT WAS MADE TO BE BAYONET TOO., IT´S SIMILAR, BUT NO IT´S THE SAME. THIS KNIFE WAS PLACED IN THE FINAL PART OF THE BARREL. THE PROBLEM WAS I CAN´T FIRE WITH THE KNIFE!!

Marc · 25th October 2005, 11:27 AM

Indeed, I confirm Carlos' attribution: a Spanish dagger, 19th. c., from the city of Albacete.
The punched decoration and the the pierced blade with brass fillings are also typical and put this one into the "higher than average" category. The brass "plugs" tend to be the first thing to be lost in the exemplars that feature them, as well as the handle's bone "ribs". This one is very nice, well-preserved and complete, together with the sheath, no less (it should be made of cardboard, by the way). My sincere congratulations.

24th October 2005, 09:39 PM	#1
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	Spanish? Hi all. The black sheep is back in the flock. My public apologies because I had caused a great deal of upset to the moderators. Sometimes you cannot avoid history when you talk about weapons. I don’t continue because they will lock the thread again. To the blades now. I suppose this is a Spanish dagger. Please tell me if I am right and please guess its age. There is something strange in a hole in the blade. The blade is plated (I think later). Attached Images

24th October 2005, 11:03 PM	#3
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 755	spanish!! YES, IT´S FROM SPAIN, FROM THE CITY OF ALBACETE. THERE ARE A TYPICAL SPANISH KNIFE FROM THIS AREA.I THINK IT´S FROM THE FIRST OF 19 CENTURY. IN THE BOOK " ARMAS BLANCAS EN ESPAÑA", OF RAFAEL OCETE RUBIO APPEARS ONE VERY SIMILAR, PAG 91. HE CALLS LIKE "KNIVES FROM ALBACETE TYPE B".

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24th October 2005, 10:00 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Yes, I would guess Spanish, certainly Mediterranean coast of Spain, Corisica, more Spain.

24th October 2005, 11:17 PM	#4
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	Carlos - I've heard that these were sometimes used as plug bayonets, any truth to that? I've one also, although considerably less ornate. Rich

25th October 2005, 11:27 AM	#6
Marc Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Madrid / Barcelona Posts: 256	Indeed, I confirm Carlos' attribution: a Spanish dagger, 19th. c., from the city of Albacete. The punched decoration and the the pierced blade with brass fillings are also typical and put this one into the "higher than average" category. The brass "plugs" tend to be the first thing to be lost in the exemplars that feature them, as well as the handle's bone "ribs". This one is very nice, well-preserved and complete, together with the sheath, no less (it should be made of cardboard, by the way). My sincere congratulations.