Seeking information

chregu · 4th February 2010, 10:31 PM

hello together
Seeking information about this beautiful piece.
blade length: 33cm
whence comes this keris?
Anyone carrying such a Keris?
how old is this Keris?
what a pamor?
how to restore it?

Rick · 5th February 2010, 01:11 AM

It's a naga form keris .

The blade 'seems' old .

I can't tell the pamor without seeing it in a proper stain .

The hilt seems to be a Surakarta form .

Again, this blade confuses me; is it Mataram style, or Madurese ??

The pendok seems to be repoussed on both sides; this is not usual in my limited experience .

Restore ?
No .

Maybe get the blade stained; that's all I would suggest .

Marcokeris · 5th February 2010, 12:09 PM

Is selut from Cirebon area

i like a lot the grain of old gayaman wood. what kind of wood

Greybeard · 5th February 2010, 12:44 PM

Hello Chregu

Welcome to the forum. It's nice to see another Swiss member here!
Your naga keris has a rather nice overall shape and a ganja Kelap Lintah (waved ganja). It's difficult to tell its age, but the keris appears to be heavily polished.

Regards,

Heinz

A. G. Maisey · 6th February 2010, 12:59 AM

I would limit any restoration of the dress to a light cleaning of the pendok with 0000 steel wool and a polishing cloth, and good quality wax furniture polish on the wood.

The blade does appear to require the attention of a careful and experienced m'ranggi. Since you are in Switzerland, I would endorse Rick's advice :- no blade restoration.

chregu · 9th February 2010, 07:03 PM

to all who have helped me. och have here a better picture.
gruss chregu

kulbuntet · 10th February 2010, 09:24 PM

Nice keris,

Iff the keris is allowed to travel, let me know.

Regards Michel

asomotif · 10th February 2010, 10:42 PM

The hilt appears to have a selut within the selut, and they are not of the same material/style.

I think that this keris has had another type / style of hilt.

the outher selut and pendok are obiously of the same making.
So I would not change that. But maybe indeed a cirebon ukiran would have been the original fitting

Nice wood grain indeed.

Amuk Murugul · 11th February 2010, 01:38 AM

Hullo everybody,

Nice piece! Reminds me of a Naga Sasra by Handjani but in a more recent Tjirebon style with a strong Djawa influence.

Best,

David · 11th February 2010, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Hullo everybody,

Nice piece! Reminds me of a Naga Sasra by Handjani but in a more recent Tjirebon style with a strong Djawa influence.

Best,

I haven't a clue what you mean by this. Care to show some examples?

4th February 2010, 10:31 PM	#1
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5th February 2010, 01:11 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	It's a naga form keris . The blade 'seems' old . I can't tell the pamor without seeing it in a proper stain . The hilt seems to be a Surakarta form . Again, this blade confuses me; is it Mataram style, or Madurese ?? The pendok seems to be repoussed on both sides; this is not usual in my limited experience . Restore ? No . Maybe get the blade stained; that's all I would suggest .

5th February 2010, 12:09 PM	#3
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Is selut from Cirebon area i like a lot the grain of old gayaman wood. what kind of wood

5th February 2010, 12:44 PM	#4
Greybeard Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 124	Hello Chregu Welcome to the forum. It's nice to see another Swiss member here! Your naga keris has a rather nice overall shape and a ganja Kelap Lintah (waved ganja). It's difficult to tell its age, but the keris appears to be heavily polished. Regards, Heinz

6th February 2010, 12:59 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	I would limit any restoration of the dress to a light cleaning of the pendok with 0000 steel wool and a polishing cloth, and good quality wax furniture polish on the wood. The blade does appear to require the attention of a careful and experienced m'ranggi. Since you are in Switzerland, I would endorse Rick's advice :- no blade restoration.

10th February 2010, 09:24 PM	#7
kulbuntet Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 159	Nice keris, Iff the keris is allowed to travel, let me know. Regards Michel

10th February 2010, 10:42 PM	#8
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	The hilt appears to have a selut within the selut, and they are not of the same material/style. I think that this keris has had another type / style of hilt. the outher selut and pendok are obiously of the same making. So I would not change that. But maybe indeed a cirebon ukiran would have been the original fitting Nice wood grain indeed.

11th February 2010, 01:38 AM	#9
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 472	Hullo everybody, Nice piece! Reminds me of a Naga Sasra by Handjani but in a more recent Tjirebon style with a strong Djawa influence. Best,