Age and origin of this kris!

[ThePepperSkull]

If the sheath is any indication, it may be a Sundang Melayu. The handle completely covered in metal fittings makes me think so as well. The "elephant's head" area of the sor-soran reminds me a lot of peninsula Kris Sundang as opposed to Sulu or Mindanao Kris.

Again, I am far from being an expert on the issue and this is what I see from what I have learned so far. Perhaps the more experienced members can enlighten us? I know there was a thread in the Keris Worung Kopi recently that found a Sundang with Pamor to be a newer made blade with a forced patina/aging on it. Could this be a similar case or is it a legitimate piece?

[Battara]

I agree with Pepperskull. This is a Malaysian Kris and a nice piece. These are harder to date. I would guess early 20th century?

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by ThePepperSkull

If the sheath is any indication, it may be a Sundang Melayu. The handle completely covered in metal fittings makes me think so as well. The "elephant's head" area of the sor-soran reminds me a lot of peninsula Kris Sundang as opposed to Sulu or Mindanao Kris.?

That is what I thought also. It has some differences opposed moro krisses, for example the scabbard.
But at the other hand, it is quite heavy and couldn't there be a possibility that this one is moro though, but the (old) scabbard is made later in malay style???

Originally Posted by ThePepperSkull

Again, I am far from being an expert on the issue and this is what I see from what I have learned so far. Perhaps the more experienced members can enlighten us? I know there was a thread in the Keris Worung Kopi recently that found a Sundang with Pamor to be a newer made blade with a forced patina/aging on it. Could this be a similar case or is it a legitimate piece?

I am also no expert on Malay sundangs at all, but I am sure after studying this piece, to tell that this is a very genuine and very old piece. This is absolutely not a forced patina/aging what we have here. Maybe the images are very bad (it seems difficult for me to show the dark patina on a light coloured background.)
I am 100% sure this is a legitimate piece!..... and please don't ask....I am NOT removing the handle to look at the peksi!!

Originally Posted by Battara

I agree with Pepperskull. This is a Malaysian Kris and a nice piece. These are harder to date. I would guess early 20th century?

Jose, after handling very old pieces lately (and also not that old pieces, and I am talking than about early 20th century pieces) I can assure you this one is very old, definately 19th century, and when looking to the patina all over and the old damages that have the same patina, I wouldn't be surprised if it was very early 19th century.