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I heard that the Moro liked darker blades when they waited in ambush. Perhaps lighter blades when at home or when they wanted to make a "flashy entrance."
I recently met a Moro Princess of the Buayan Dynasty. Maybe she would know. I'll ask. She is more involved in politics, but since Datu Utto was in her lineage, she might have an opinion. |
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Dear All,
regarding the stain on moro krisses: in a catalogue of an Pilippines exhibition in Munich from 1985 I found this kris. There is no date of acquisition in the catalogue, yet it should be between 1880 and 1926. It is also interesting with regards to this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=kris+krosses |
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Gustav, what a great piece! Superb in condition and creation. Also great example of blades being first stained.
I might place this piece a little earlier only because of the workmanship quality. maybe 1860s - 1880s? The blade is Maguindanao. The work maybe too. Thanks for sharing. Could you also post the description please (even if it is in German)? |
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Jose, the description is very rudimentary:
A sword with straight Kris-blade. Blackened steel with "Silbertauschierung" (silver inlays). Chased silver handle in shape of a rudimentary bird form, which carries the kris on its back (typ 1.5); length: 55 cm; Sulu Archipelago, 19. cent. Staatliches Museum für Völkerkunde München. Inv. number : 25-60-14 The writer, Rose Schubert, has an interesting, yet strange vision of the hilt: she interprets these hilts as a bird, which carries the kris on its back; this form becomes evident once the tip of the blade points upward. It makes perhaps some sense with Junggayan, yet not with simpler forms. I ask me, if description "silver inlay" is absolutely precise also. If you look closely, the silver vire seems twisted. I suppose, it could be intertwined silver and gold wire, as seen on some examples. Jose, if you are interested in the date of acquisition of this kris, I could try to ask the museum. |
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If you would Gustav, that would be great. The blade looks Maguindanao, but yes the okir has a Sulu flair to it, even though some aspects seem Maguindanao as well.
Any extra information would be so helpful to us...... |
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beautiful kris, gustav. similar in style with this kris:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=robotic notice the one kino posted on that same thread. Quote:
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Jose, I would not pay to much attention to the description. There is a picture of campilan she also describes "Sulu Archipelago", as well as the kris below. |
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yes. on the pommel of the kris in the picture you've provided, you could see the profile of the sarimanok, the mythical chicken venerated throughout Moroland. meanwhile, the more common types (I've attached a picture below, in the same position) is just that, a less elaborate form of the junggayan pommel, but nevertheless, it's the same motif. notice the triangular appendage (with a curly cue tip) on the side of the junggayan pommel. it's pretty obvious representation of the wings. you will notice the same appendages on the less elaborate pommels. the flat, angled part on the left (of the picture) of the common pommel is just an abbreviated version of the tail, while on the right is an abbreviated version of the head. such is Ukkil.. the Sarimanok is a common motif in the arts and crafts of the Moro culture, but nowhere do you see the cockatoo. |
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