New Arrival / comments wanted

danny1976 · 10th December 2009, 09:26 PM

Okey let,s say the hilt is no hippo . someone has a idea what it could be than ?

Mr Maisy . do you have a opinion over the blade ?

Ganja iras or..?

A. G. Maisey · 10th December 2009, 09:39 PM

Re the hilt Danny, I do not have any idea what it might be. If you have followed our hilt material guessing games you will understand that it can sometimes be pretty difficult to say with any certainty what material a hilt might be from. More often than not I don't get involved in these guessing games.

Re the blade, from the photos I don't think that this is a gonjo iras blade.The proportion seems wrong for gonjo iras, and in a gonjo iras blade the gonjo is usually indicated by a line in the place where we would normally find a joint.

If you remove the hilt and have a look at the tang (pesi) you may be able to gain some indication as to whether a gonjo was ever fitted, or not, but even this inspection may not provide positive evidence one way or the other. If you find a slightly larger diameter in the tang immediately above the blade base, it is very probable that a gonjo was once fitted that has now been lost.However, the absence of this increased diameter is no gaurantee that a gonjo was never fitted.

A better indication might be to look at the width of the blade base. When you remove the hilt, I suggest that you post a photo looking down directly onto the blade base.

A. G. Maisey · 10th December 2009, 09:40 PM

Thanks Gustav.

danny1976 · 10th December 2009, 10:21 PM

Thanks gustav for the explain on hipo hilts. I think it still will be a quistion if this hilt is hippo or not?

Mr Maisi.

I will make photo,s this weekend wihout the hilt.

How about the pamor and the origin , malay ?

Sajen · 11th December 2009, 02:22 AM

Danny and Gustav are correct, the hilt is very old hippo ivory. Tomorrow I will show a other hilt and how you can indicate hippo ivory, Gustav give already the right direction. Lines with small black dots is the best sign for hippo ivory.

sajen

Gustav · 11th December 2009, 01:09 PM

A good thread about hilt ivory: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=hippo+ivory

David · 11th December 2009, 03:52 PM

I am in agreement that the gonjo on this keris is indeed missing.

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10th December 2009, 09:26 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Okey let,s say the hilt is no hippo . someone has a idea what it could be than ? Mr Maisy . do you have a opinion over the blade ? Ganja iras or..?

10th December 2009, 09:39 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Re the hilt Danny, I do not have any idea what it might be. If you have followed our hilt material guessing games you will understand that it can sometimes be pretty difficult to say with any certainty what material a hilt might be from. More often than not I don't get involved in these guessing games. Re the blade, from the photos I don't think that this is a gonjo iras blade.The proportion seems wrong for gonjo iras, and in a gonjo iras blade the gonjo is usually indicated by a line in the place where we would normally find a joint. If you remove the hilt and have a look at the tang (pesi) you may be able to gain some indication as to whether a gonjo was ever fitted, or not, but even this inspection may not provide positive evidence one way or the other. If you find a slightly larger diameter in the tang immediately above the blade base, it is very probable that a gonjo was once fitted that has now been lost.However, the absence of this increased diameter is no gaurantee that a gonjo was never fitted. A better indication might be to look at the width of the blade base. When you remove the hilt, I suggest that you post a photo looking down directly onto the blade base.

10th December 2009, 09:40 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Thanks Gustav.

10th December 2009, 10:21 PM	#4
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Thanks gustav for the explain on hipo hilts. I think it still will be a quistion if this hilt is hippo or not? Mr Maisi. I will make photo,s this weekend wihout the hilt. How about the pamor and the origin , malay ?

11th December 2009, 02:22 AM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Danny and Gustav are correct, the hilt is very old hippo ivory. Tomorrow I will show a other hilt and how you can indicate hippo ivory, Gustav give already the right direction. Lines with small black dots is the best sign for hippo ivory. sajen

11th December 2009, 01:09 PM	#6
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	A good thread about hilt ivory: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=hippo+ivory

11th December 2009, 03:52 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I am in agreement that the gonjo on this keris is indeed missing.