Plz help with ID of 2 Daggers

[Conogre]

Keeping secrets from me, eh, Justin?
Here's another of the "Surmene" daggers/knives, this one a little guy at 8" long with a 4" blade and pink dyed ivory hilt scales, and even with its diminuative size has a clearly defined hardened edge and an extremely long wicked point that makes it "feel" more lethal than a cursory glance would indicate, and now that you mention it, I can see the definite resemblence to a yatagan in the end of the hilt.
It also, of course, works extremely well as a "steak knife of the world"!
I got this one and a Yatagan both from a gentleman in Izmir who had related the information to me about the knives being peculiar to the region but have never seen it verified elsewhere until now...thank you.
Like Justin, I also have to second the motion and hope that you've overlooked a Black Sea yatagan or two, as that's #1 on my "quest list".
I have to admit to being somewhat surprised to find that both styles are from Turkey....now I REALLY have to dig and find my copy of Levine's....thanks a lot, Ian, as sometimes it's harder to find things here than it is on the internet!
Mike