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2nd September 2009, 04:31 PM
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Thank you so much indeed, Samuel,
 That painting truly is a highly important source of illustration and I fully agree with your thesis that Katzbalgers were not only Knecht (mercenaries') weapons. If I am interpreting it right the pommel on Carpaccio's 1510 painting is gilt; we know of surviving Katzbalgers with gilt hilts and pommels, e.g. in the Vienna Leibrüstkammer. Sure, we can imagine that some of the more successful mercenaries could afford to have the hilts of their swords gilt - or they just took one from a person they had killed. But the source you have come up with here is sensational in that it proves your surmise that the use of these swords was not limited to the lower people!  Thanks again for sharing it. All the best, Michael |
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27th September 2009, 03:50 PM
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A few early 16th century sources of illustration from Geiler v. Kaisersberg, The Passion of Christ, Strassburg, 1508 (the first two), and Titus Livius, Mainz, 1514.
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27th September 2009, 04:14 PM
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An illustration by Georg Pencz, Nuremberg, 1530's: The Suicide of Artemesia.
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27th September 2009, 04:30 PM
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By the same artist, dated 1535.
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13th October 2009, 04:51 PM
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Early 16th century Landsknecht swords in the Musée de l'Armée, Paris
A Grosses Messer, ca. 1500, and five swords of ca. 1530-40.
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13th October 2009, 04:59 PM
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16th century hand-and-a-half and two hand swords, Paris, Musée de l'Armée
Enjoy!
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14th October 2009, 06:33 PM
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