Interesting Lumad sword

Ian · 11th May 2005, 12:13 AM

Thanks Spunjer. I agree we have probably contributed to some of the changes in the market place by talking openly about uncommon or obscure weapons.

This is a decision that we each face. Some people choose one way, others another way. Personally, I favor spreading the knowledge around. I get as much, if not more, enjoyment from talking about these weapons with other interested collectors, than keeping information to myself so that I can accumulate another dozen cheap examples of a sword nobody else cares about or understands what it is.

There is probably a larger number of people who think otherwise. Some of them are probably lurking on this Forum as I write this.

I don't have a problem with that. Making a profit from my collection is not a life goal -- if I was a dealer I might feel differently. More improtant to me is the sharing of knowledge, particularly in areas for which there is no handy reference book or accessible data.

This Forum is a great place to hang out and learn about ethnographic edged weapons -- I hope we all continue to share what we know without too much thought about who might be lurking or possibly competing for prized weapons.

Ian.

Rick · 11th May 2005, 01:57 AM

Eight years ago ; $11.00 incl. shipping .
Alas , no more .

themorningstar · 11th May 2005, 05:41 AM

it's a sundang...

Ian · 11th May 2005, 12:43 PM

themorningstar.

Thanks for the information. Would you care to comment on the influences that seem to have contributed to this sword -- Spanish, Moro, Visayan?

Spunjer · 11th May 2005, 02:07 PM

well said, ian...

tom hyle · 11th May 2005, 02:38 PM

Is it chisel bevelled? Do you not see a (close) resemblance to matulis?

philkid · 11th May 2005, 03:28 PM

Hi guys, glad you liked the "lumad" sword I have posted on ebay. Thanks for the clarification. I really thought it was Moro because I bought it from a Maranao.

Ian · 25th August 2005, 04:51 PM

well made swords just finished on eBay and the price is climbing. Even though advertised as "Moro" it is not a recognized weapon of the Moro but of the Kaolu (one of the Lumad tribes) around Davao City. The quality is good on these recently made swords, and they may have been produced by a Moro crafstman, but the style is definitely not Moro. This example is a modern sword made mainly for sale to wealthy tourists.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6554400265

Ian.

Spunjer · 25th August 2005, 05:09 PM

ian

i was watching that as well. like you, i think it's recent...

11th May 2005, 12:13 AM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Good points Spunjer Thanks Spunjer. I agree we have probably contributed to some of the changes in the market place by talking openly about uncommon or obscure weapons. This is a decision that we each face. Some people choose one way, others another way. Personally, I favor spreading the knowledge around. I get as much, if not more, enjoyment from talking about these weapons with other interested collectors, than keeping information to myself so that I can accumulate another dozen cheap examples of a sword nobody else cares about or understands what it is. There is probably a larger number of people who think otherwise. Some of them are probably lurking on this Forum as I write this. I don't have a problem with that. Making a profit from my collection is not a life goal -- if I was a dealer I might feel differently. More improtant to me is the sharing of knowledge, particularly in areas for which there is no handy reference book or accessible data. This Forum is a great place to hang out and learn about ethnographic edged weapons -- I hope we all continue to share what we know without too much thought about who might be lurking or possibly competing for prized weapons. Ian.

11th May 2005, 01:57 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	The Good Old Days Eight years ago ; $11.00 incl. shipping . Alas , no more . Attached Images

11th May 2005, 12:43 PM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Thanks for the ID themorningstar. Thanks for the information. Would you care to comment on the influences that seem to have contributed to this sword -- Spanish, Moro, Visayan?

25th August 2005, 04:51 PM	#8
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Another one of these ... well made swords just finished on eBay and the price is climbing. Even though advertised as "Moro" it is not a recognized weapon of the Moro but of the Kaolu (one of the Lumad tribes) around Davao City. The quality is good on these recently made swords, and they may have been produced by a Moro crafstman, but the style is definitely not Moro. This example is a modern sword made mainly for sale to wealthy tourists. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6554400265 Ian.

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11th May 2005, 05:41 AM	#3
themorningstar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 55	it's a sundang...

11th May 2005, 02:07 PM	#5
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	well said, ian...

11th May 2005, 02:38 PM	#6
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Is it chisel bevelled? Do you not see a (close) resemblance to matulis?

11th May 2005, 03:28 PM	#7
philkid Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philippines Posts: 52	Hi guys, glad you liked the "lumad" sword I have posted on ebay. Thanks for the clarification. I really thought it was Moro because I bought it from a Maranao.

25th August 2005, 05:09 PM	#9
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	ian i was watching that as well. like you, i think it's recent...