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Old 2nd August 2009, 12:59 AM   #1
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Just an observation .
There's something funny about the tip .
Possibly it has been reshaped during it's working life ?
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Edit: The scabbard could have been made later to fit the blade. Billy

The pattern in the blade seems to follow the tip. Should the tip be more rounded as a "slasher", not a "stabbing" blade? The tip fits snug in the scabbard's hollowed out tip area. (That photo is in an earlier Post of mine)

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See my edit in the post above .

Here is a blade that I think may be from the same time frame as yours .
http://www.arscives.com/historysteel...1/160-rb3a.jpg
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See my edit in the post above .

Here is a blade that I think may be from the same time frame as yours .
http://www.arscives.com/historysteel...1/160-rb3a.jpg
Yes it does look like the same tip! I will Post about the cockatua pommel later.

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Old 2nd August 2009, 02:06 AM   #4
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Indeed; but compare the distance between the engraving and the point . Compare the point shape with your example .
Check the rest of the krisses on the site also .

http://www.arscives.com/historysteel...nes.swords.htm

Your's is an old blade; I'm fairly certain of that .
It may even have a twist core .

Nothing wrong with keeping an old warrior functional .
If the point was modified it was long ago I figure .
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Indeed; but compare the distance between the engraving and the point . Compare the point shape with your example .
Check the rest of the krisses on the site also .

http://www.arscives.com/historysteel...nes.swords.htm

Your's is an old blade; I'm fairly certain of that .
It may even have a twist core .

Nothing wrong with keeping an old warrior functional .
If the point was modified it was long ago I figure .
I've bookmarked that and I keep looking and looking.

Can you point me to a reference on "twist core" versus other forge techniques? Is this where they would twist the metal billets? Does this make it rarer?

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I looked at the pictures in your link and compared the copper wire and nails to the top and bottom chased okired pieces. I think the top and bottom pieces are indeed swassa.

The place to test them would be at a jewelers (besides me).

Also the blade is probably older than the hilt. Not unusual.
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I looked at the pictures in your link and compared the copper wire and nails to the top and bottom chased okired pieces. I think the top and bottom pieces are indeed swassa.

The place to test them would be at a jewelers (besides me).

Also the blade is probably older than the hilt. Not unusual.
Thanks for this tip. I will try a jeweler next.

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I looked at the pictures in your link and compared the copper wire and nails to the top and bottom chased okired pieces. I think the top and bottom pieces are indeed swassa.
Yep, that would be my guess as well, though it's hard to tell just from an internet photo. I also think the pommel will turn out to be silver.
You can easily purchase silver test solution. Test for gold content might require a jeweler.
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Old 2nd August 2009, 03:08 AM   #9
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Default Cockatua Pommel Hilt

In a small hole that didn't show well in the photos I can almost see wood under where the cockatua joins the hilt.

Could the cockatua be silver or a mix?

Do you think that the cockatua is small or medium size?

Is this a shape found in pre-20th Century?

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