Breech loading 1450-1550

Matchlock · 8th July 2009, 07:45 PM

Hi Fernando,

There is no need to worry, sometimes I cannot remember myself what I posted before or not.

1. I know of no surviving locking bars for breeches but think that they may have been of either iron or wood.

2. I cannot tell for sure but when relying on the two actually surviving objects I have posted today I think that we may assume that the breech contained only the powder charge and a wooden plug.

Best,
Michael

fernando · 9th July 2009, 12:15 AM

Hi Michael,
Thank you so much

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

1. I know of no surviving locking bars for breeches ....

Even taking into account Brodaxe's post #18 in this thread?

Fernando

Matchlock · 10th July 2009, 02:06 PM

Especially taking broadaxe's documentation into consideration, Fernando.

As e.g. your postings have taught me almost anything must be granted to be a possible solution (remember the wooden hooks on haquenuts?)

Iron wedges would of course have been more stable and thus more probable.

Michael

Spiridonov · 18th July 2009, 07:54 PM

Two 15 century breach-loading guns from museum of artillery in Saint-Petersberg

Spiridonov · 18th July 2009, 07:57 PM

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fernando · 18th July 2009, 08:00 PM

Excelent examples, Sipiridonov.
Thanks for bringing them up here.
Eventually i have recently read that chamber locks were also made of wood.
Fernando

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Spiridonov · 18th July 2009, 08:02 PM

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fernando · 18th July 2009, 08:22 PM

Outstanding pictures of outstanding weapons.
Fernando

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8th July 2009, 07:45 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Fernando, There is no need to worry, sometimes I cannot remember myself what I posted before or not. 1. I know of no surviving locking bars for breeches but think that they may have been of either iron or wood. 2. I cannot tell for sure but when relying on the two actually surviving objects I have posted today I think that we may assume that the breech contained only the powder charge and a wooden plug. Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 8th July 2009 at 08:02 PM.

10th July 2009, 02:06 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Especially taking broadaxe's documentation into consideration, Fernando. As e.g. your postings have taught me almost anything must be granted to be a possible solution (remember the wooden hooks on haquenuts?) Iron wedges would of course have been more stable and thus more probable. Michael

18th July 2009, 08:22 PM	#8
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Outstanding pictures of outstanding weapons. Fernando