My Batak Keris...my first post

[Rick]

Another guilty party here too !

[David]

Originally Posted by Rick

Another guilty party here too !

Actually Rick, i think you actually have a real blade there, albeit, not a very good one.

[Rick]

True David , but the rest is quite similar .

[harimauhk]

Thanks guys! I actually had no idea it was a tourist item. I have a few more keris--hopefully I have at least one good one

[HughChen]

Originally Posted by Rick

Another guilty party here too !

Hi Rick,

I have a very similar keris like yours. I got it from an auction. It's said to be more than 100 years old!

[Rick]

Hello Hugh and welcome to the forums.

You have a real keris blade there, but I don't think you would see a person of the culture wearing this ensemble in public.
As for 100 years that would be doubtful for the dress although I haven't seen many of this dress style in recent years.

As far as the attribution you have been given on this piece goes; we have a saying here; "buy the keris not the story".

We have a very large archive of keris related posts and there is a lot to be learned from doing a search by keyword there, and don't be shy about asking questions.

[milandro]

Hugh, these hilts and sarongs are often made to entice non Indonesians.

Mostly sold outside Bali as being Balinese but aside from a general sarong shape resembling the Balinese ones they feature almost invariably blades of East Javanese origin. The blade may even be old but hardly ever of any quality.

I have seen them also in the form of man and woman hilts ( sold together) and the seller was telling me that he had got them on Bali and that they were wedding krises. They are very crudely made en the embossing is very superficial and undefiled. The shape is almost cylindrical.

There are currently several examples on Etsy but we are not permitted to show krises that are in an active sale or auction.

[HughChen]

Originally Posted by milandro

Hugh, these hilts and sarongs are often made to entice non Indonesians.

Mostly sold outside Bali as being Balinese but aside from a general sarong shape resembling the Balinese ones they feature almost invariably blades of East Javanese origin. The blade may even be old but hardly ever of any quality.

I have seen them also in the form of man and woman hilts ( sold together) and the seller was telling me that he had got them on Bali and that they were wedding krises. They are very crudely made en the embossing is very superficial and undefiled. The shape is almost cylindrical.

There are currently several examples on Etsy but we are not permitted to show krises that are in an active sale or auction.

Mine is not exactly cylindrical, the facial part is protruding. I'm sad to hear this because I paid a lot of money for this kris. And I can only find a similar one here in this forum by google search, I cannot find a similar one anywhere else.

[milandro]

I am sorry to say that most beginners ( I am one too) incur this kind of mistakes. It's learning money one pays.


Similar krises are, every now and again, offered in the NL ( a country which for historical reasons has connections to Indonesia) on secondhand sites.
You will find some similar things on Etsy sometimes.


The reason why content has disappeared is that the links have become dead. This can have several reasons but the main is that they were images which were not uploaded on this forum but only linked with a link to an external source.
That is the reason why it is no longer allowed to do that.

[HughChen]

Originally Posted by milandro

I am sorry to say that most beginners ( I am one too) incur this kind of mistakes. It's learning money one pays.


Similar krises are, every now and again, offered in the NL ( a country which for historical reasons has connections to Indonesia) on secondhand sites.
You will find some similar things on Etsy sometimes.


The reason why content has disappeared is that the links have become dead. This can have several reasons but the main is that they were images which were not uploaded on this forum but only linked with a link to an external source.
That is the reason why it is no longer allowed to do that.

Thank you Milandro, I heard that Keris are very cheap and in big amount in NL, which is definitely a very good thing for collectors.

[HughChen]

Originally Posted by Rick

Hello Hugh and welcome to the forums.

You have a real keris blade there, but I don't think you would see a person of the culture wearing this ensemble in public.
As for 100 years that would be doubtful for the dress although I haven't seen many of this dress style in recent years.

As far as the attribution you have been given on this piece goes; we have a saying here; "buy the keris not the story".

We have a very large archive of keris related posts and there is a lot to be learned from doing a search by keyword there, and don't be shy about asking questions.

Thank you Rick, there's one thing about the forum that I've always wanted to say, which is that many contents (#1-#4) in one of your excellent pinned thread 'classics' have become invisible. I don't know the reason. This is a great pity for beginners like me.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3938