Not exactly related to kerises but...

A. G. Maisey · 11th June 2009, 03:43 AM

Rick, I'm not backing a German nor a Russian origin, I'm just saying it looks like some things of this origin I have seen.
I don't know enough about this sort of stuff to back anything.
As far as I'm concerned it could be from anywhere.

Jussi M. · 11th June 2009, 06:17 AM

Very good observations gentlemen,

I agree on that the finish does not necessarily match that seen on most Japanese artifacts. It is too detailed for that as the Japanese work tends to be more smooth and "graphic" for a lack of a better word.

If I would have to guess I would guess that it is Russian sculpture with Japanese influences. Dont have anything to back this up but the geography - Finland has 1300 km borderline with Russia - raises the odds considerably. Might be German too as Alan suggested. I simply dont know

J

drdavid · 11th June 2009, 09:27 AM

Alan and Jussi
I certainly see your points on patina and quality, it is the grouping that made me think Japanese. However as Jussi suggests this may well be a Japanese influenced Euro made piece, there was a significant move to Japonism in Europe as a consequence of the many 'Exhibitions/Fairs' that were popular late in the 19th Century, as I am sure you all know.
David
ps Rick I am not sure the Japanese were always anatomically accurate when it came to 'endowment' if you have seen any shunga prints

Rick · 11th June 2009, 03:23 PM

LOL !
I don't collect Japanese art; but I can imagine ..

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11th June 2009, 03:43 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Rick, I'm not backing a German nor a Russian origin, I'm just saying it looks like some things of this origin I have seen. I don't know enough about this sort of stuff to back anything. As far as I'm concerned it could be from anywhere.

11th June 2009, 06:17 AM	#2
Jussi M. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 235	Very good observations gentlemen, I agree on that the finish does not necessarily match that seen on most Japanese artifacts. It is too detailed for that as the Japanese work tends to be more smooth and "graphic" for a lack of a better word. If I would have to guess I would guess that it is Russian sculpture with Japanese influences. Dont have anything to back this up but the geography - Finland has 1300 km borderline with Russia - raises the odds considerably. Might be German too as Alan suggested. I simply dont know J

11th June 2009, 09:27 AM	#3
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Alan and Jussi I certainly see your points on patina and quality, it is the grouping that made me think Japanese. However as Jussi suggests this may well be a Japanese influenced Euro made piece, there was a significant move to Japonism in Europe as a consequence of the many 'Exhibitions/Fairs' that were popular late in the 19th Century, as I am sure you all know. David ps Rick I am not sure the Japanese were always anatomically accurate when it came to 'endowment' if you have seen any shunga prints

11th June 2009, 03:23 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	LOL ! I don't collect Japanese art; but I can imagine ..