Tawdry Tulwar.

Jens Nordlunde · 27th March 2009, 05:06 PM

Atlantia,
In this case it was easy to get a flat surface with Dremel 511 - I just followed the edge, and as the 511 is not a grinding wheel it was no problem. In Norman's case it could be a problem, but I think that if he takes it easy and does not press too hard, it will work
How many 511's I used? I don't remember, maybe about 6-8.
No I did not finish with anything, I only used the 511.

Norman,
The right side of the blade has one broad fuller, not very deep, and on the other side of the blade there are two very narrow fullers.
I don't know why they made blades like this, maybe to show the skill of the weapon smith, but I think these blades are as strong as any other blade.
Jens

Norman McCormick · 28th March 2009, 06:33 PM

Hi,
Just a quick update. Using a hot air gun to remove the hilt made it a quick and easy job, five minutes and it was done no mess. The scratches, gouges and grinder marks are so deep in places that on the 6 inches I attempted I had to resort to a selection of files, fine to ultra fine, to make any progress. I also used some fine paper but I've still a way to go. Despite the problems progress is being made. Thanks to all for their input.
Regards,
Norman.

Atlantia · 28th March 2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

Atlantia,
In this case it was easy to get a flat surface with Dremel 511 - I just followed the edge, and as the 511 is not a grinding wheel it was no problem. In Norman's case it could be a problem, but I think that if he takes it easy and does not press too hard, it will work
How many 511's I used? I don't remember, maybe about 6-8.
No I did not finish with anything, I only used the 511.

Norman,
The right side of the blade has one broad fuller, not very deep, and on the other side of the blade there are two very narrow fullers.
I don't know why they made blades like this, maybe to show the skill of the weapon smith, but I think these blades are as strong as any other blade.
Jens

Jens.

Thanks for the tips bud! I'll have to add some 511s to my dremel box 'O' bits!

Norman.

Looking good mate, silicon carbide paper on a block and files are the method I've alweays used. Slow as hell but forgiving of mistakes.
Hmmm, hot air gun!! Good call! I might have to do my pair of bikiner Tulwars soon

Gene.

Jens Nordlunde · 29th March 2009, 05:09 PM

The funny thing is, that sometimes the 'lashes' are on the outside and sometimes on the inside. I don't know why that is, maybe it was the smith's decision, or maybe there is another reason for this.

Jim McDougall · 30th March 2009, 06:00 AM

Hi Jens,
Markings are always a puzzle (as we know!!

) . These markings are derived from early marks believed from N. Italian blademaking centers and termed 'sickle marks'. These migrated with Italian trade, probably out of Genoa, and were widely copied in other centers, especially Solingen.
The native bladesmiths in India, among others, used interpretations of these markings as a mark of quality, and probably, as you note, applied the mark in whatever fashion they chose. It seems these sickle marks are almost standard on the blades of Afghan paluaors.

Beautiful pattern in that blade!!!

All the best,
Jim

Jens Nordlunde · 30th March 2009, 02:54 PM

Hi Jim,
Thanks for the explanation about the sickle marks, now we only have a few details left

- the meaning of the rest of the stamps.
Jens

28th March 2009, 06:33 PM	#2
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi, Just a quick update. Using a hot air gun to remove the hilt made it a quick and easy job, five minutes and it was done no mess. The scratches, gouges and grinder marks are so deep in places that on the 6 inches I attempted I had to resort to a selection of files, fine to ultra fine, to make any progress. I also used some fine paper but I've still a way to go. Despite the problems progress is being made. Thanks to all for their input. Regards, Norman. Attached Images

29th March 2009, 05:09 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	The funny thing is, that sometimes the 'lashes' are on the outside and sometimes on the inside. I don't know why that is, maybe it was the smith's decision, or maybe there is another reason for this. Attached Images

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27th March 2009, 05:06 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Atlantia, In this case it was easy to get a flat surface with Dremel 511 - I just followed the edge, and as the 511 is not a grinding wheel it was no problem. In Norman's case it could be a problem, but I think that if he takes it easy and does not press too hard, it will work How many 511's I used? I don't remember, maybe about 6-8. No I did not finish with anything, I only used the 511. Norman, The right side of the blade has one broad fuller, not very deep, and on the other side of the blade there are two very narrow fullers. I don't know why they made blades like this, maybe to show the skill of the weapon smith, but I think these blades are as strong as any other blade. Jens

30th March 2009, 06:00 AM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,193	Hi Jens, Markings are always a puzzle (as we know!! ) . These markings are derived from early marks believed from N. Italian blademaking centers and termed 'sickle marks'. These migrated with Italian trade, probably out of Genoa, and were widely copied in other centers, especially Solingen. The native bladesmiths in India, among others, used interpretations of these markings as a mark of quality, and probably, as you note, applied the mark in whatever fashion they chose. It seems these sickle marks are almost standard on the blades of Afghan paluaors. Beautiful pattern in that blade!!! All the best, Jim

30th March 2009, 02:54 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Jim, Thanks for the explanation about the sickle marks, now we only have a few details left - the meaning of the rest of the stamps. Jens