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Old 5th February 2009, 07:29 PM   #1
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Hi Michael,


Yes u know this one

I was not sure about the amulets and after asking 2 persons
one person thought it was otoman ?? i deciede to have it
with out the amulets..

What did u think of the blade , it brighter now.


Greetz,

Danny
Hi,

I was the one who removed the "original" decorations. Danny left it up to me to remove or not. After a short inspection at the back of the pins and brass beltclasps? they where as bright as the morning at the back,absolute no patina and that strangecourse it was surely a well patinated scabbard.
Maybe they are added by a Javanese or so? Of course they are still in my workplace so if Danny wants me to add them again no problem....
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Old 5th February 2009, 07:48 PM   #2
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Hi Arjan,

Thanks for falling in the discusion..

about the ''amulets'' i,m happy how the scabbard looks now

U may keep them maybe as decoration on a suit for a party...

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Old 5th February 2009, 08:28 PM   #3
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Arjan,

That's strange as they should at least had lost some of their shine the time it spent with me after I picked it up in Holland?
Do you think they were artificially aged on the front or how come they could look "new" on the back-side?

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Old 5th February 2009, 09:21 PM   #4
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It belongs to the scabbard Danny.

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Old 5th February 2009, 10:59 PM   #5
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If these metal ornaments had been on the scabbard for a long time, there should have been some outline of the ornaments left on the wood.

I mean, the wood under these ornaments would have been lighter or cleaner because the metal ornament had been there.

Like a picture hanging on the wall for years leaving a mark on the wall.
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Old 6th February 2009, 06:59 AM   #6
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Willem, I agree to the painting on the wall effect.
But I find it hard to see it on the pictures above. Maybe because Arjan has given the scabbard both a very good restauration as well as his skills in repatination?

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Old 6th February 2009, 10:35 PM   #7
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the engravings on
my mandau looking more smooth?
Hi Danny,
It is done by hand. How deep the engravings are will depend on who and with what they did it.
I never tried to make an engraving, but I think in iron it is a difficult job.

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Maybe because Arjan has given the scabbard both a very good restauration as well as his skills in repatination?
From pictures and after the reatsuration it is indeed difficult to be sure.
But I trust Arjan's judgement in this case.
Although these ornaments where not very bad.
I have a mandau that once had colored chicken feathers glued to the scabbard.
Well, those had to go. I don't think that dayak would attach feathers of such an easy prey to their weapon.
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