MANDAU FOR COMMENT

[danny1976]

Hi Michael,


Yes u know this one

I was not sure about the amulets and after asking 2 persons
one person thought it was otoman ?? i deciede to have it
with out the amulets..

What did u think of the blade , it brighter now.


Greetz,

Danny

[danny1976]

Willem,

Thanks for the photo,s .

But do you notice that if u look to youre photo,s and
the photo,s from maurice that the engravings on
my mandau looking more smooth?

Danny

[VVV]

Originally Posted by danny1976

Hi Michael,


Yes u know this one

I was not sure about the amulets and after asking 2 persons
one person thought it was otoman ?? i deciede to have it
with out the amulets..

What did u think of the blade , it brighter now.


Greetz,

Danny

Hi Danny,

Yes, the blade is brighter and nicer.
But I think you made a BIG mistake in removing the "amulets" (see pict).
I think they were related to this phenomena on one of Ben's unusual scabbards.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5139

Michael

[Dajak]

Originally Posted by VVV

Hi Danny,

Yes, the blade is brighter and nicer.
But I think you made a BIG mistake in removing the "amulets" (see pict).
I think they were related to this phenomena on one of Ben's unusual scabbards.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5139

Michael

It is original to the scabbard like Michael says a pity that you removed it Danny

Ben

[Mytribalworld]

Originally Posted by danny1976

Hi Michael,


Yes u know this one

I was not sure about the amulets and after asking 2 persons
one person thought it was otoman ?? i deciede to have it
with out the amulets..

What did u think of the blade , it brighter now.


Greetz,

Danny

Hi,

I was the one who removed the "original" decorations. Danny left it up to me to remove or not. After a short inspection at the back of the pins and brass beltclasps? they where as bright as the morning at the back,absolute no patina and that strangecourse it was surely a well patinated scabbard.
Maybe they are added by a Javanese or so? Of course they are still in my workplace so if Danny wants me to add them again no problem....

[danny1976]

Hi Arjan,

Thanks for falling in the discusion..

about the ''amulets'' i,m happy how the scabbard looks now

U may keep them maybe as decoration on a suit for a party...

Danny

[VVV]

Arjan,

That's strange as they should at least had lost some of their shine the time it spent with me after I picked it up in Holland?
Do you think they were artificially aged on the front or how come they could look "new" on the back-side?

Michael

[Dajak]

It belongs to the scabbard Danny.

Ben

[asomotif]

If these metal ornaments had been on the scabbard for a long time, there should have been some outline of the ornaments left on the wood.

I mean, the wood under these ornaments would have been lighter or cleaner because the metal ornament had been there.

Like a picture hanging on the wall for years leaving a mark on the wall.

[VVV]

Willem, I agree to the painting on the wall effect.
But I find it hard to see it on the pictures above. Maybe because Arjan has given the scabbard both a very good restauration as well as his skills in repatination?

Michael

[asomotif]

the engravings on
my mandau looking more smooth?

Hi Danny,
It is done by hand. How deep the engravings are will depend on who and with what they did it.
I never tried to make an engraving, but I think in iron it is a difficult job.

Maybe because Arjan has given the scabbard both a very good restauration as well as his skills in repatination?

From pictures and after the reatsuration it is indeed difficult to be sure.
But I trust Arjan's judgement in this case.
Although these ornaments where not very bad.
I have a mandau that once had colored chicken feathers glued to the scabbard.
Well, those had to go. I don't think that dayak would attach feathers of such an easy prey to their weapon.