Identification of a prince with a Kris

ganjawulung · 3rd February 2009, 03:40 AM

Yes. And these are more paintings by Raden Saleh from European collections -- I think they are all in the Netherlands, Germany or France...

http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/aria/aria_...e=&context_id=
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raden_Saleh
http://www.arcadja.com/auctions/it/s...artista/62264/

GANJAWULUNG

Kiai Carita · 3rd February 2009, 08:57 AM

Raden Saleh, the father of modern Indonesian painting. His home in Cikini, Jakarta, is now the TIM art centre.

asomotif · 3rd February 2009, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Hi, it is from my private collection or didn't you mean that?

Hi Erik,

What I was wondering is :
Is it part of a book, or just a loose page of a book ?

Best regards,
Willem

erikscollectables · 3rd February 2009, 07:31 PM

Hi Willem,

It is neither it is an original photo, as I mentioned form my photo collection.
The format is the so called CDV (Carte de Visite).
At the bottom you can see the name of the photographer in The Hague.

I have a small collection of these kind of photo's mainly of officers with the Dutch Military Order of William which is a military historic interest of mine (www.mwo.6x.to). This prince had a double interest to me, the combination of interesting orders (not the aforementioned MWO) and the keris!

Judging from what I have seen on the websites this is a picture not published before.

Regards, Erik

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

Hi Erik,

What I was wondering is :
Is it part of a book, or just a loose page of a book ?

Best regards,
Willem

asomotif · 4th February 2009, 11:32 PM

Thanks Erik,

What kind of orders is he wearing ? can you tell by this picture ?
And the helmet reminds me a bit of old KNIL helments.

Where variations of the KNIL helmets also used ?

Best regards,
Willem

Amuk Murugul · 5th February 2009, 01:36 AM

Hullo everybody,

I just had a thought!

.... From somewhere in my dim past I remember that, while Lieutenant-General of Java, Raffles was so impressed by a young Raden Saleh that he sent him to India and recommended his superiors meet with the prince. From this meeting, Raden Saleh went on to the courts of Europe.
Hope this helps someone who is interested in chasing it up.

Best,

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ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	More Raden Saleh's Painting Yes. And these are more paintings by Raden Saleh from European collections -- I think they are all in the Netherlands, Germany or France... http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/aria/aria_...e=&context_id= http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raden_Saleh http://www.arcadja.com/auctions/it/s...artista/62264/ GANJAWULUNG Last edited by ganjawulung; 3rd February 2009 at 09:48 AM.

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3rd February 2009, 08:57 AM	#2
Kiai Carita Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 91	Raden Saleh, the father of modern Indonesian painting. His home in Cikini, Jakarta, is now the TIM art centre.

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asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Thanks Erik, What kind of orders is he wearing ? can you tell by this picture ? And the helmet reminds me a bit of old KNIL helments. Where variations of the KNIL helmets also used ? Best regards, Willem

5th February 2009, 01:36 AM	#6
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 474	Hullo everybody, I just had a thought! .... From somewhere in my dim past I remember that, while Lieutenant-General of Java, Raffles was so impressed by a young Raden Saleh that he sent him to India and recommended his superiors meet with the prince. From this meeting, Raden Saleh went on to the courts of Europe. Hope this helps someone who is interested in chasing it up. Best,