A double barrel pistol for coments

[fernando]

First of all, welcome to the Forum, Anandalal.
Now, let's see what we have here, that may be answered.

This pistol size is considerable, with 14 cms barrel length; the caliber rounds 11 mm. It is not so heavy, though.
I would say that, pistols and revolvers having a lanyard ring, sugest that they are military pieces, rather than only for mounted forces; but this is not an absolute rule.
Belgium origin ? maybe yes, but there are no proof marks in it; and even cheap stuff from Belgium usualy bears proof marks. Again this is no absolute rule.
Eventually i have just noticed that the little mark on the barrel also appears on the hammers bases so, for sure, they are intentional marks, although they may belong to some regional maker.
I don't think that at any chance those intriguing rods are or were once ramrods. They are 'too many', being a pair, and are too rigid to spring off the lugs.
BTW, the sugestion that they would lack a wider diameter in the tip for better handling, would not apply to this type of gun. You are referring to an ejection rod, due to cartridge chamber generation, whereas in this muzzle loading version, the wider part would be in the front end, to ram the charge into the barrel. One crazy idea would be that their purpose is to avoid dirt from easily geting into the two separated barrels ... a crazy idea, i said .
Both barrels are smooth bore.
The uni trigger technique is as i called it, sofisticated, but non troppo. Its action has no mistery; it will activate the hammers that are cocked at one time ... either one or both simultaneously. As this is a single action gun, it's up to the shooter to select what will happen. The right hammer shoots the top barrel. The hammers have two positions: full cocked and half cocked; but you can't call the late a safety position, as it is able to fire in such case ... at least presently .
Thank you for having posted your opinnions, folks; ready for the next ones.
Fernando

[Gavin Nugent]

Hi Fernando,

I can't help but I have been hitting the books, all I can say is I LIKE IT!!!

A very cool little pistol, you'd feel pretty safe with a pair of those stuffed in your breeches.

Gav

[Pukka Bundook]

Fernando,

I was not talking about an ejection rod. I know it's a muzzleloader.
Some double over and unders have two ramrods, one each side, with a lug retaining them. they are sprung past the lug to withdraw them.

A muzzleloader should have a larger tip to the rod, to ram home the charge, rather than just a rod.

R.

Gav,
Not if they can go off at half cock you wouldn't!

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by fernando

First of all, welcome to the Forum, Anandalal.
Now, let's see what we have here, that may be answered.

This pistol size is considerable, with 14 cms barrel length; the caliber rounds 11 mm. It is not so heavy, though.
I would say that, pistols and revolvers having a lanyard ring, sugest that they are military pieces, rather than only for mounted forces; but this is not an absolute rule.
Belgium origin ? maybe yes, but there are no proof marks in it; and even cheap stuff from Belgium usualy bears proof marks. Again this is no absolute rule.
Eventually i have just noticed that the little mark on the barrel also appears on the hammers bases so, for sure, they are intentional marks, although they may belong to some regional maker.
I don't think that at any chance those intriguing rods are or were once ramrods. They are 'too many', being a pair, and are too rigid to spring off the lugs.
BTW, the sugestion that they would lack a wider diameter in the tip for better handling, would not apply to this type of gun. You are referring to an ejection rod, due to cartridge chamber generation, whereas in this muzzle loading version, the wider part would be in the front end, to ram the charge into the barrel. One crazy idea would be that their purpose is to avoid dirt from easily geting into the two separated barrels ... a crazy idea, i said .
Both barrels are smooth bore.
The uni trigger technique is as i called it, sofisticated, but non troppo. Its action has no mistery; it will activate the hammers that are cocked at one time ... either one or both simultaneously. As this is a single action gun, it's up to the shooter to select what will happen. The right hammer shoots the top barrel. The hammers have two positions: full cocked and half cocked; but you can't call the late a safety position, as it is able to fire in such case ... at least presently .
Thank you for having posted your opinnions, folks; ready for the next ones.
Fernando

Hi again Fernando,
I have researched the mark shown but can not locate it in any of the books I have, so that remains a mystery. You state the barrel length at 14cm--about 5 1/2inchs---not that big really. My pick is that it is a civilian item rather than military, as the quality does not appear to be that good. The lanyard ring, whilst typically a military feature, is also used to retain possession on some civilian items. It could also have been added at a later stage.
I do hope that one of our members can postively identify it for you.
Regards Stuart