New Addition #1 Bugis?

PenangsangII · 24th November 2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Alam Shah

I see.. I'm mistaken then..

thanks for the clarification..

sometimes it may take a few attempt before it get loosen.. but normally, I won't force it out, risk breaking the hilt..

Risk breaking the hilt or the tang.....

What do you think Shahrial, carita or tok chu.... me think its a tok chu

Alam Shah · 24th November 2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PenangsangII

What do you think Shahrial, carita or tok chu.... me think its a tok chu

Carita, by characteristics, "Tok Chu", to be precise.

David · 24th November 2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alam Shah

Carita, by characteristics, "Tok Chu", to be precise.

Can you guys explain the difference?

Alam Shah · 25th November 2008, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Can you guys explain the difference?

Unfortunately, I lack the knowledge. Perhaps other more knowledgeable person, may do so..

. But how the blade looks like, the available features, typical of a 'Tok Chu' piece.

PenangsangII · 25th November 2008, 06:48 AM

in short, the characteristics of this dhapur is called "Tok Chu" by keris lovers from Malaysia, Singapore and Southern Thai.

BluErf · 25th November 2008, 01:24 PM

From what I know, "Tok Chu" was a pandai keris in N Malaya (he could have been staying in the present day Thailand side, or the Malaysian side), who worked possibly circa late 19th century, early 20th century.

The kerises he made were very broad, and had very fine features. People called his kerises "Tok Chu", after him, just like the keris Pandai Saras. As to whether this example here is a Tok Chu is hard to say. The examples I've seen attributed to him are really really broad, and fine!

Don't get me wrong, Kino's blade here is mighty fine, just that it is a wee bit too narrow compared to the ones I've seen. But still, a very fine blade - no questions!

BluErf · 25th November 2008, 01:29 PM

Ah ha, found a pic of a suspected Tok Chu. Note the "fatness"!

25th November 2008, 01:29 PM	#7
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Ah ha, found a pic of a suspected Tok Chu. Note the "fatness"! Attached Images

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25th November 2008, 06:48 AM	#5
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	in short, the characteristics of this dhapur is called "Tok Chu" by keris lovers from Malaysia, Singapore and Southern Thai.

25th November 2008, 01:24 PM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	From what I know, "Tok Chu" was a pandai keris in N Malaya (he could have been staying in the present day Thailand side, or the Malaysian side), who worked possibly circa late 19th century, early 20th century. The kerises he made were very broad, and had very fine features. People called his kerises "Tok Chu", after him, just like the keris Pandai Saras. As to whether this example here is a Tok Chu is hard to say. The examples I've seen attributed to him are really really broad, and fine! Don't get me wrong, Kino's blade here is mighty fine, just that it is a wee bit too narrow compared to the ones I've seen. But still, a very fine blade - no questions!