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A. G. Maisey · 19th August 2008, 12:57 AM

Scratch, somewhere in the Forum posts are instructions for staining that I wrote. I don't know where they are, but maybe somebody can help.

Staining takes time. 15 minutes + 15 minutes is not even a beginning.

The last stain job I did took over a week in pineapple juice to clean, a few hours on detailing, and then two days of staining before I was happy with the result.

The image is of a blade I made some years ago.This was a swine of thing to stain. I worked on it on and off for the best part of a week. I cleaned it off and started again more times than I can remember.

I hope you are using laboratory quality white arsenic. Industrial quality can create some pretty interesting effects, like reds and greens and yellows and blues.

Rick · 19th August 2008, 03:57 AM

I think this may be the blade Alan is referring to .

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=ligan

Battara · 19th August 2008, 04:09 AM

Didn't know there was such a huge difference in arsenics!

A. G. Maisey · 19th August 2008, 04:17 AM

Yes Rick, that's the one.

I didn't realise that arsenic quality made any difference either---until I drove myself half crazy with trying to get decent results from industrial quality.

scratch · 19th August 2008, 11:04 AM

G'day,
A G Maisy,
Thank you for your words

Unfortunately windows of opportunity for this particular staining process are not frequent. I will be patient. I will find staining thread with search again. I have Freys book. I believe it to be laboratory arsenic trioxide. It produces black? I will check with source, thanks for the alert.
What a lovely blade!
The dapor is meaningful in intent/Looks good. The requirements to forge such art are unknown to me. Thank you for sharing

What is this bade dapor called? Is it chengkrong?
The blade I posted does look nice in a Java handle.
Hello Battara,
Cheers,

Dan

David · 19th August 2008, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scratch

I believe it to be laboratory arsenic trioxide. It produces black?

The color produced is dependent upon the types of iron used in the blade. Black is not always the result. Shades of gray are common.

A. G. Maisey · 19th August 2008, 01:55 PM

No Scratch, not cengkrong, pasopati.

Why do you mention Frey's book? Which edition?

19th August 2008, 12:57 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,029	Scratch, somewhere in the Forum posts are instructions for staining that I wrote. I don't know where they are, but maybe somebody can help. Staining takes time. 15 minutes + 15 minutes is not even a beginning. The last stain job I did took over a week in pineapple juice to clean, a few hours on detailing, and then two days of staining before I was happy with the result. The image is of a blade I made some years ago.This was a swine of thing to stain. I worked on it on and off for the best part of a week. I cleaned it off and started again more times than I can remember. I hope you are using laboratory quality white arsenic. Industrial quality can create some pretty interesting effects, like reds and greens and yellows and blues. Attached Images

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19th August 2008, 03:57 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,340	I think this may be the blade Alan is referring to . http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=ligan

19th August 2008, 04:09 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,294	Didn't know there was such a huge difference in arsenics!

19th August 2008, 04:17 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,029	Yes Rick, that's the one. I didn't realise that arsenic quality made any difference either---until I drove myself half crazy with trying to get decent results from industrial quality.

19th August 2008, 11:04 AM	#5
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	G'day, A G Maisy, Thank you for your words Unfortunately windows of opportunity for this particular staining process are not frequent. I will be patient. I will find staining thread with search again. I have Freys book. I believe it to be laboratory arsenic trioxide. It produces black? I will check with source, thanks for the alert. What a lovely blade! The dapor is meaningful in intent/Looks good. The requirements to forge such art are unknown to me. Thank you for sharing What is this bade dapor called? Is it chengkrong? The blade I posted does look nice in a Java handle. Hello Battara, Cheers, Dan

19th August 2008, 01:55 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,029	No Scratch, not cengkrong, pasopati. Why do you mention Frey's book? Which edition?