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Old 18th July 2008, 11:06 PM   #1
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this was said of one of skanderbeg's swords in a museum in the early 1900's:


"According to Faik Konica, who viewed the sword at the beginning of the 20th century, there were still stains of blood on the blade."
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Old 18th July 2008, 11:15 PM   #2
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thats a romantic nationalst talking not a historian
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Old 18th July 2008, 11:23 PM   #3
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I've got this old spear laying around, I dont really want it and its DEFINATELY got REAL blood stains all over it......
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Old 19th July 2008, 12:13 AM   #4
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Nice spear head

What is it ? Roman around the year 30 AD
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Old 19th July 2008, 12:21 AM   #5
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Nice spear head

What is it ? Roman around the year 30 AD
Yeah, but its borken and no shaft, and the blood stains devalue it. :-(
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Old 21st July 2008, 09:48 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by chevalier
this was said of one of skanderbeg's swords in a museum in the early 1900's:


"According to Faik Konica, who viewed the sword at the beginning of the 20th century, there were still stains of blood on the blade."
Excellent research Chevalier!
What museum was this? Who was Faik Konika? Can you say the reference, page in case we would like to check further?
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Old 22nd July 2008, 12:31 AM   #7
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Excellent research Chevalier!
What museum was this? Who was Faik Konika? Can you say the reference, page in case we would like to check further?

The power of Google:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faik_Konica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_of_Skanderbeg
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Old 22nd July 2008, 01:23 AM   #8
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in keeping with the subtopic


is the "spear of longinus' one and the same as the "antioch arrow/lance" the crusaders found during the seige of antioch???
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Old 22nd July 2008, 01:28 AM   #9
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..and yes, i took the quote from a wikipedia page on the arms of skanderbeg.


ive been interested in surviving arms of kings/chiefs/military commanders in europe and elsewhere.
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Old 22nd July 2008, 04:16 AM   #10
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..and yes, i took the quote from a wikipedia page on the arms of skanderbeg.


ive been interested in surviving arms of kings/chiefs/military commanders in europe and elsewhere.


Busy minds are happy minds!
What the heck did we ever do before computers!!! Back in the old days I could never have imagined all this info at my fingertips.
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Old 22nd July 2008, 03:41 PM   #11
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What the heck did we ever do before computers!!! Back in the old days I could never have imagined all this info at my fingertips.

Yes, but you did have papyrus available to you back then, didn't you, Jim?
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is the "spear of longinus' one and the same as the "antioch arrow/lance" the crusaders found during the seige of antioch???
Apparently not. Again, Wikipedia to the rescue (search "longinus spear"). According to that august authority, there are no less than three spears (in four different places): the "Vatican" spear (the tip of which is in Paris), the "Echmiadzin" spear (the one from Antioch, now in Armenia), and the "Vienna" spear (the one in this thread). The Vienna spear has been dated to no earlier than the 7th C, so it seems that it is the least likely of the three to be genuine.
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