Tribal dart quiver

[VANDOO]

SOUTH AMERICAN EXAMPLES FOR COMPARISON, JIVARO PREPARING DARTS, BLOWGUN AND QUIVER WITH DARTS.

[VANDOO]

TWO MORE FROM SOUTH AMERICA. 1. YAGUAS TRIBE PERU, HUNTER WITH A LONG BLOWGUN. 2. 1960 HUAORANI WARRIOR WITH BLOWGUN, CLUB, POISON POT AND SHRUNKEN HEAD.

[Albert]

The picture that Vandoo posted of the natives of Makassar, is very interesting. Not only for its age or because of the blowguns, but also for the hilt of the short sword one of them carries. It is a type I do not know, and it seems to resemble the hilts from the Batak on Sumatra. I am very curious about the source of the picture! Can you help?

[VANDOO]

THE PICTURE WAS A PAGE FROM A OLD BOOK OFFERED FOR SALE ON EBAY MANY BOOKS ARE BEING TORN UP AND THE PLATES BEING SOLD ON EBAY FOR MORE THAN YOU CAN GET SELLING THE ENTIRE BOOKS. THAT IS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN ON EBAY SO I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THE DRAWING PERHAPS SOMEONE FRAMILIAR WITH THE HISTORY OF THE AREA AT THAT TIME PERIOD COULD GUESS WHAT EUROPEAN COUNTRY WAS INVOLVED THERE AT THE TIME.

I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IN THE PICTURE IS THE DART CASE IN THE FRONT OF THE BELT OF THE CENTER WARRIOR. WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE HANDLE OF A KNIFE IS ACTUALLY THE ENDS OF SEVERAL DARTS WITH PITH OR FIBER ON THEM, READY TO GRAB AND LOAD AND SHOOT. I WONDER IF THE DRAWING IS ACURATE FOR THE SHAPE OF THE DART CASES OR IF THEY WERE THE ROUND BAMBOO ONES WHICH ARE USUALLY FOUND. PERHAPS A QUIVER OF THAT SHAPE WILL SHOW UP?.

[Albert]

Originally Posted by VANDOO

THE PICTURE WAS A PAGE FROM A OLD BOOK OFFERED FOR SALE ON EBAY MANY BOOKS ARE BEING TORN UP AND THE PLATES BEING SOLD ON EBAY FOR MORE THAN YOU CAN GET SELLING THE ENTIRE BOOKS. THAT IS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN ON EBAY SO I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THE DRAWING PERHAPS SOMEONE FRAMILIAR WITH THE HISTORY OF THE AREA AT THAT TIME PERIOD COULD GUESS WHAT EUROPEAN COUNTRY WAS INVOLVED THERE AT THE TIME.

I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IN THE PICTURE IS THE DART CASE IN THE FRONT OF THE BELT OF THE CENTER WARRIOR. WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE HANDLE OF A KNIFE IS ACTUALLY THE ENDS OF SEVERAL DARTS WITH PITH OR FIBER ON THEM, READY TO GRAB AND LOAD AND SHOOT. I WONDER IF THE DRAWING IS ACURATE FOR THE SHAPE OF THE DART CASES OR IF THEY WERE THE ROUND BAMBOO ONES WHICH ARE USUALLY FOUND. PERHAPS A QUIVER OF THAT SHAPE WILL SHOW UP?.

Now I see, it indeed is a quiver with darts. Never seen this shape before!
It is a pity that destroying books (and in the process losing the provenace) generates more money than selling the complete one.

[asomotif]

A small group of borneo quivers and other bamboo containers.
Jus a 'little bit' out of focus

[kai]

Hello Albert,

The picture that Vandoo posted of the natives of Makassar, is very interesting. Not only for its age or because of the blowguns, but also for the hilt of the short sword one of them carries.

I'm missing something: A sword hilt figured on the old print with the 3 native blow-gunners? Help!

Regards,
Kai

[Albert]

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Albert,


I'm missing something: A sword hilt figured on the old print with the 3 native blow-gunners? Help!

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,

My mistake, the 'sword hilt' appears to be a bundle of blow-darts butts.

Albert

[Sajen]

Hello,

I hope it's ok that I reactivate this threat again. Today I received my last e-bay buy, a "Tolor" from Palawan. Since I have a nice Tolor from Dayak-tribe I want to share both with you and show the differents between both.
If the different size is typical is difficult to say by only two items for compare.
The Dayak quiver is 29 cm and the one from Palawan is 49 cm long. But the belt hook seems for both typical when you look to the other shown quiver before. The same is it with the rattan bindings like Dayak note before. Very different look the darts.
Here at first both quiver side by side.

[Sajen]

Here some close ups from the Dayak quiver.