Long Moro Twistcore spear

A. G. Maisey · 13th February 2008, 09:52 PM

How about to increase force of thrust?

If you attach a cord to the butt end of a spear, wind a few turns around the shaft, then wind the other end of the cord around your hand, and position the hand further up the shaft at point of balance, you have effectively increased leverage allowing a heavier thrust, or alternatively, the handling of a heavier than normal weight weapon. The turns around the shaft provide spin, giving stabilisation.In a projectile weapon the cord acts as a spear thrower, in a weapon not intended to be thrown it allows a heavier thrust and a loose hand thrust to the end of the shaft, giving longer reach.

katana · 13th February 2008, 10:15 PM

Very ...very nice spear......I would never throw it...so why attach a cord to retrieve it

Regards

Ferguson · 14th February 2008, 01:02 AM

Beautiful! What a specimen.
Steve

kino · 14th February 2008, 01:48 AM

It's just lovely, Bill.

CharlesS · 14th February 2008, 12:41 PM

Gorgeous example, but I agree with Battara and doubt it was ever meant for serious combat, and I am betting its weight makes it a cumbersome "thrower".

Lew · 14th February 2008, 03:42 PM

Bill

very sweet spear. I agree it's way too long and heavy to be a thrower it seems to me a better longer distance jabber.

Lew

A. G. Maisey · 14th February 2008, 11:02 PM

I do not know anything about Moro weaponry, but I do have considerable background in Javanese and Balinese weaponry.

In these cultures a spear intended to be used in the hand and not thrown usually has a much more substantial shaft than this one, a shaft that swells in the mid point to afford better grip.

I agree that the quality of the blade of this spear could indicate a weapon used on ceremonial occasions, however the narrow section shaft seems more to indicate a thrown weapon.

The Roman pilum was a heavy thrown spear that weighed up to 8.5 pounds, and could travel 90 feet or so.

Cord spear throwers are well known and widely spread. Use of cord spear throwers is recorded in the Pacific region.

http://www.nma.gov.au/cook/artefact.php?id=337

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/8682/jav.htm

http://dictionary.reference.com/brow...20thrower?r=14

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilum

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13th February 2008, 09:52 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	How about to increase force of thrust? If you attach a cord to the butt end of a spear, wind a few turns around the shaft, then wind the other end of the cord around your hand, and position the hand further up the shaft at point of balance, you have effectively increased leverage allowing a heavier thrust, or alternatively, the handling of a heavier than normal weight weapon. The turns around the shaft provide spin, giving stabilisation.In a projectile weapon the cord acts as a spear thrower, in a weapon not intended to be thrown it allows a heavier thrust and a loose hand thrust to the end of the shaft, giving longer reach.

13th February 2008, 10:15 PM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Very ...very nice spear......I would never throw it...so why attach a cord to retrieve it Regards

14th February 2008, 01:02 AM	#3
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Beautiful! What a specimen. Steve

14th February 2008, 01:48 AM	#4
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,020	It's just lovely, Bill.

14th February 2008, 12:41 PM	#5
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Gorgeous example, but I agree with Battara and doubt it was ever meant for serious combat, and I am betting its weight makes it a cumbersome "thrower".

14th February 2008, 03:42 PM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Bill very sweet spear. I agree it's way too long and heavy to be a thrower it seems to me a better longer distance jabber. Lew

14th February 2008, 11:02 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	I do not know anything about Moro weaponry, but I do have considerable background in Javanese and Balinese weaponry. In these cultures a spear intended to be used in the hand and not thrown usually has a much more substantial shaft than this one, a shaft that swells in the mid point to afford better grip. I agree that the quality of the blade of this spear could indicate a weapon used on ceremonial occasions, however the narrow section shaft seems more to indicate a thrown weapon. The Roman pilum was a heavy thrown spear that weighed up to 8.5 pounds, and could travel 90 feet or so. Cord spear throwers are well known and widely spread. Use of cord spear throwers is recorded in the Pacific region. http://www.nma.gov.au/cook/artefact.php?id=337 http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/8682/jav.htm http://dictionary.reference.com/brow...20thrower?r=14 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilum