Keris Identification

[ferrylaki]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yeah, Pak Pauzan is a number one class person. A good man. Not many people in Jawa that I trust:- I trust Pak Pus and his family 101%.

Look Ferry, tayuman handles are silly expensive. If you can wait till next time I'm in Solo, sometime next year, I'll give you a piece of wood that has exactly the same qualities as tayuman, but better colour and grain, then you can get it carved.I can even point you to an excellent tukang jejeran.

Keris prices--- you mostly get what you pay for:- pay cheap---get junk; pay in the middle---get something that's OK; pay expensive--- get good---as long as you know what you're doing.

But Ferry, just a quiet word:- let's not talk values, prices & etc here. This is not a market, its a study site. Lets keep it money free. You want talk values, email me and I'll talk all day.

Who is doing the gayam for you?

Ok Alan...I'm looking forward to see you next year. Pak Pauzan told me that you come to Solo once or two times in a year.
I heard that there are some species of wood from Australia has hardness and grain similar or even better than tayuman it self.

I get my gayaman from a keris dealer Mr Henky in rawabening market east Jakarta. the mranggi it self is Pak Plongoh from bekonang.
I just order keris hilt in kemuning wood from Mr Yanto in north Alun alun .
but I havent receive the result yet.
He showed me some example of cecekan which has some quality.
the problem is finding the wood it self, even kemuning wood is getting scarce ( kemuning with minimum 15cm diagonal) .

I'm very sorry for mentioning the kerises price. my intention was to tell that the blade is a cheap example of keris.trully sorry. will never happen again.

[A. G. Maisey]

Thanks for the names Ferry. Don't know any of them, but that doesn't mean anything, I center on Solo, and limit my work to one or two top people.

Yeah, all wood is hard to get in Jawa now. But it comes and goes--- you'll find that for a few weeks there will be a lot of really premium stuff around, and when that's gone you might wait 12 months or more before you get anything good again. Its sure not what it used to be like 20 or 30 years back---but even then really premium stuff was difficult.

I try to get to Solo at least once a year---depends on my work commitments in Oz.When things are slack I have been known to go 3 or 4 times, but that's rare. Next year looks bad at the moment. I need 14 months in next year.

[ferrylaki]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Thanks for the names Ferry. Don't know any of them, but that doesn't mean anything, I center on Solo, and limit my work to one or two top people.

Yeah, all wood is hard to get in Jawa now. But it comes and goes--- you'll find that for a few weeks there will be a lot of really premium stuff around, and when that's gone you might wait 12 months or more before you get anything good again. Its sure not what it used to be like 20 or 30 years back---but even then really premium stuff was difficult.

I try to get to Solo at least once a year---depends on my work commitments in Oz.When things are slack I have been known to go 3 or 4 times, but that's rare. Next year looks bad at the moment. I need 14 months in next year.

For Correction the name is not Mr.Plongoh....but Mr.Plompong from bekonang.
and Mr Henky ( a friend of mine) says Mr Plompong make good Sunggingan.
Mr.Henky would be a goos person to deal with in Rawabening keris market.
I'm Ganjawulung will agree with me.

I'll visit Mr.Pauzan next December. He's so nice to every body. I introduce my self as a beginner in collecting keris and he gladly answer every question thet I have. Trully nice peson he is.

OK, Thanks to you all ...
the information helps alot.

[ganjawulung]

Originally Posted by ferrylaki

For Correction the name is not Mr.Plongoh....but Mr.Plompong from bekonang.
and Mr Henky ( a friend of mine) says Mr Plompong make good Sunggingan.
Mr.Henky would be a goos person to deal with in Rawabening keris market.
I'm Ganjawulung will agree with me.

I'll visit Mr.Pauzan next December. He's so nice to every body. I introduce my self as a beginner in collecting keris and he gladly answer every question thet I have. Trully nice peson he is.

OK, Thanks to you all ...
the information helps alot.

Dear Ferry,

Mr Plompong is one of the young and promising mranggi warangka (sheath maker) in Solo now. I think he is around 30-s of age. I went twice at his home in Bekonang, in the Eastern part of Solo. His craftmanship on Solonese gayaman and ladrang, is good. But not Jogjanese, of course... (Bekonang is wellknown of producing specific local alcoholic drink called "ciu", you may call it as "solonese whiskey"...). The best mranggi was Mr Indarto (I forgot his formal name in Keraton Solo), but unfortunately this wellknown warangka maker of Keraton Solo died last year...

Hengky? Yes, hengky purnomo in pasar (tradisional market) Rawabening in Jakarta was one of the good keris dealers in Jakarta. If you are fond of precious stones -- then Rawabening is a good "oasis" for you.

The pasar is very very crowded, and... that is Jakarta "slump"... There are more than 10 keris shops there, but mostly selling 21th century Madurese kerises. Only two shops, I think, that sometimes you may find good and occasionally -- exceptional kerises.

(Once upon a time, I think it was 10 years ago, there was an old lady who sold the belonging of her late husband. One of them, was a very very rare form of keris with old wayang relief in the whole blade. Like the keris with relief, which you may see in Tropen Museum Amsterdam. Mr Cholik, one Madurese keris dealer bought the keris with cheap price. And not for long later, a colector gave Mr Cholik a motorbike in exchange of the keris... If I were there, I would change it more than one motorbike, I think...)

Ganjawulung