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|  11th November 2007, 01:24 AM | #12 | 
| Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia 
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			You are absolutely correct David, the slippage bit is gonjo function not greneng function. Perhaps if I might ask another question of those with greater historical understanding, when did the highly stylised greneg first appear? Is it apparent early in the post keris buda era or is it a significantly later arrival? Understanding this may give some clues. DrD | 
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