A bit unusual keris

Rick · 12th March 2005, 01:51 AM

Like this .

rasdan · 12th March 2005, 02:08 AM

WOW!! I've seen the pic before but didnt notice it. This shows how ignorant i am. Thanks man!! I'll have the museum informed.

Alam Shah · 14th March 2005, 02:01 AM

For book reference, see...

Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago
by Albert G. Van Zonneveld

Hardcover: 160 pages
Publisher: Kitlv Press (July 1, 2002)
ISBN: 9054500042

rasdan · 14th March 2005, 02:11 AM

Thanks, Alam.

John · 25th March 2005, 04:04 AM

Whilst we have been on Sulawesi/Bugis... From the publication - HOUTSNIJWERK EN METAALBEWERKING IN NEDERLANDSCH-INDIE. PUBLISHER: DEBUSSY, AMSTERDAM, 1916.

Raja Muda · 25th March 2005, 09:39 AM

While we're on this subject, there's always one thing I wanted to ask Dave. Last month I visited the Asian Civilisations Museum across the bay from the Cavanagh bridge.
I was intrigued to see one of the kerises in the display. It has a nogo blade if I'm not mistaken but it was provenanced Bugis (again, if memory serves me right). I don't know if anyone else here, especially the orang Singapure have ever noticed this particular blade (inside the Malay world gallery).
Were the Bugis smiths also manufacturing blade types similar to those by the Javanese empus or was this one a trade blade? hmmm

BluErf · 25th March 2005, 03:49 PM

That blade is a true-blue straits bugis blade, not a javanese blade. Thick, broad, robust, in full bugis glory. The naga is also not of javanese form.

John · 17th August 2005, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raja Muda

... Last month I visited the Asian Civilisations Museum across the bay from the Cavanagh bridge.
I was intrigued to see one of the kerises in the display. It has a nogo blade if I'm not mistaken but it was provenanced Bugis (again, if memory serves me right). I don't know if anyone else here, especially the orang Singapure have ever noticed this particular blade (inside the Malay world gallery).
Were the Bugis smiths also manufacturing blade types similar to those by the Javanese empus or was this one a trade blade? hmmm

Just happened to chance upon this thread (post) via url from the "Question About SEA Armor" thread. I vividly remember seeing this particular gorgeous solid sturdy tegap strait Bugis Naga keris at the ACM during my visit there in April and particularly like it's coherent form. The other rather catchy and outstanding piece was the Peninsular (?) keris blade with 10 different pamors (if I remember correctly). Almost gives one the impression that it might be it's smith's final attempt to register as much of his key pamor skills onto that blade like a "textbook" he wanted left behind.

kerisbiz · 20th June 2016, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John

Whilst we have been on Sulawesi/Bugis... From the publication - HOUTSNIJWERK EN METAALBEWERKING IN NEDERLANDSCH-INDIE. PUBLISHER: DEBUSSY, AMSTERDAM, 1916.

where can i get the copy of this book ?

Battara · 21st June 2016, 03:34 PM

I will move this to the Keris Forum.

kerisbiz · 5th September 2016, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John

Whilst we have been on Sulawesi/Bugis... From the publication - HOUTSNIJWERK EN METAALBEWERKING IN NEDERLANDSCH-INDIE. PUBLISHER: DEBUSSY, AMSTERDAM, 1916.

where can i get the copy of this book?

12th March 2005, 01:51 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Nias Armor Like this . Attached Images

14th March 2005, 02:01 AM	#3
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Book reference... For book reference, see... Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago by Albert G. Van Zonneveld Hardcover: 160 pages Publisher: Kitlv Press (July 1, 2002) ISBN: 9054500042

25th March 2005, 04:04 AM	#5
John Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land below the wind Posts: 135	A picture of Bugis kerises from a 1916 Dutch Publication. Whilst we have been on Sulawesi/Bugis... From the publication - HOUTSNIJWERK EN METAALBEWERKING IN NEDERLANDSCH-INDIE. PUBLISHER: DEBUSSY, AMSTERDAM, 1916. Attached Images

25th March 2005, 09:39 AM	#6
Raja Muda Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 100	Bugis Keris in ACM While we're on this subject, there's always one thing I wanted to ask Dave. Last month I visited the Asian Civilisations Museum across the bay from the Cavanagh bridge. I was intrigued to see one of the kerises in the display. It has a nogo blade if I'm not mistaken but it was provenanced Bugis (again, if memory serves me right). I don't know if anyone else here, especially the orang Singapure have ever noticed this particular blade (inside the Malay world gallery). Were the Bugis smiths also manufacturing blade types similar to those by the Javanese empus or was this one a trade blade? hmmm

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

12th March 2005, 02:08 AM	#2
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	WOW!! I've seen the pic before but didnt notice it. This shows how ignorant i am. Thanks man!! I'll have the museum informed.

14th March 2005, 02:11 AM	#4
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Thanks, Alam.

25th March 2005, 03:49 PM	#7
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	That blade is a true-blue straits bugis blade, not a javanese blade. Thick, broad, robust, in full bugis glory. The naga is also not of javanese form.

21st June 2016, 03:34 PM	#10
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	I will move this to the Keris Forum.