Dramatic pattern weld on Turkish barrel

ward · 13th August 2007, 07:08 PM

no It is not a acid etched pattern. just a well made pattern weld

rand · 13th August 2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ward

no It is not a acid etched pattern. just a well made pattern weld

Hi Ward,

Are you saying the pattern welded barrel design is brought out by polishing only?

My understanding is the barrels were polished and then etched in an acidic soultion to bring out the pattern clearly.

In no way am I inferring this barrel to be a type of "false damacus", its a rare and amazing example of a Turkish firearm.

Ward,
Can you show photo's of the locks? Am assuming they are mounted with a type of miquelet lock.

rand

ward · 13th August 2007, 07:32 PM

you are corect I was saying the pattern was not carved in wax and then acid etched as in false damacene . I will get some pics up soon

Richard Furrer · 14th August 2007, 01:55 AM

Rand,
That barrel is worth reproducing. Another smith is coming to my shop this winter and we were planning on making some barrels. I would enjoy as many pictures as you can provide...especially of the breech and the end of the barrel.
What it looks like you have there is double row of twisted which has been ground to about 30% its thickness to get that star pattern to show well. The straight laminate is along side and it appears from what I can see in the reverse twist that there are eight sections (like and orange) -- four of the double twist and four of the straight. It is not simple to make the orange sections, but to do a reverse twist on the barrel is something difficult indeed..prone to welding shear.

Ward,
That last picture is a nice accordion folded jelly roll...not a simple thing to do.

Battara · 14th August 2007, 02:15 AM

Would you folks please also share full pictures of these wonderful puppies!

rand · 14th August 2007, 06:19 AM

More Turkish Miquelet Pics...

rand · 14th August 2007, 06:21 AM

More Miquelet Pics

14th August 2007, 06:19 AM	#6
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14th August 2007, 06:21 AM	#7
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13th August 2007, 07:08 PM	#1
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	no It is not a acid etched pattern. just a well made pattern weld

13th August 2007, 07:32 PM	#3
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	you are corect I was saying the pattern was not carved in wax and then acid etched as in false damacene . I will get some pics up soon

14th August 2007, 01:55 AM	#4
Richard Furrer Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin Posts: 163	Rand, That barrel is worth reproducing. Another smith is coming to my shop this winter and we were planning on making some barrels. I would enjoy as many pictures as you can provide...especially of the breech and the end of the barrel. What it looks like you have there is double row of twisted which has been ground to about 30% its thickness to get that star pattern to show well. The straight laminate is along side and it appears from what I can see in the reverse twist that there are eight sections (like and orange) -- four of the double twist and four of the straight. It is not simple to make the orange sections, but to do a reverse twist on the barrel is something difficult indeed..prone to welding shear. Ward, That last picture is a nice accordion folded jelly roll...not a simple thing to do.

14th August 2007, 02:15 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Would you folks please also share full pictures of these wonderful puppies!