Balinese Keris Help

Jacob · 9th March 2005, 04:33 PM

Now that the auction is over and it's legal to post: has anyone
seen a hilt like this before (combination Cecanginan and Gerantiman).

Mans · 15th March 2005, 02:11 AM

The nice hilt looks like a Tapukan style. Original by Balinese carving. Combinated with brass. It completely hilt.
I was bidding too for this keris at eBay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESO:IT

.... but I lost it and have no lucky

Beautiful Balinese keris. Congratulations, Jacob.

Regards,
Mans.

Rick · 15th March 2005, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mans

The nice hilt looks like a Tapukan style. Original by Balinese carving. Combinated with brass. It completely hilt.
I was bidding too for this keris at eBay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESO:IT

.... but I lost it and have no lucky

Beautiful Balinese keris. Congratulations, Jacob.

Regards,
Mans.

You know I looked at this piece and it appeared to me to be new work .

Mans · 15th March 2005, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

You know I looked at this piece and it appeared to me to be new work .

Would you please give me some reason about new work, Rick ?
In my eyes, it is beautiful balinese keris with nice pamor. Not to old, I think made about CA19th and it has good take care by the owner before. Looks so different between new iron with old piece.

Regards,
Mans.

Rick · 15th March 2005, 04:11 AM

Sometimes you just get a feeling .

I'm not saying that it isn't exquisite work or not worth the money paid .

It just looks new , the blade appears perfectly smooth yet it isn't polished .

The wood work on the ukiran looks softly carved rather than sharp carving that is worn with age and it seems ill fitted to the metal cap .

The pendokok may be older as it seems to show some staining .

The metalwork on the ukiran seems just not quite as good as it should be considering the overall impression this piece should make .

There seems to be no patina present on most of the piece .

These are just the observations of a Westerner and should be taken as such , an opinion .

Mans · 15th March 2005, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Sometimes you just get a feeling .

I'm not saying that it isn't exquisite work or not worth the money paid .

It just looks new , the blade appears perfectly smooth yet it isn't polished .

The metalwork on the ukiran seems just not quite as good as it should be considering the overall impression this piece should make .

These are just the observations of a Westerner and should be taken as such , an opinion .

Hi, Rick,
Sometimes we just got the feeling, but actually we should know about the blade, ironwork and pamor.
Often we interested about the keris because we look that a keris used an nice old scabbard and accesories like pendok and hilt. But actually we bought a new keris or common keris which have no special characteristic.
Or, often we try to justifying that the keris is new just because it have a completly or intact ricikan like greneng, ron dha or kembang kacang, but actually this keris is old and has good take care before.

This keris which last posted look so nice for me. The blade look made by good ironwork. I think it made about middle to end of CA19th, not older, but it is not a new made. The scabbard look handsome

and used an old pendok from silver. About the hilt and silver fitting, I don't have any idea how old it is

But I think it is an original Balinese hilt.

Westerner or easterner whose interest about keris look the same for me.
They have many reason and knowledge how to give opinion about it. And I try to learn more from all of them

Best Regards,
Mans.

Sang Keris · 15th March 2005, 09:40 AM

Up to you !

Andrew · 15th March 2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mans

Westerner or easterner whose interest about keris look the same for me.
They have many reason and knowledge how to give opinion about it. And I try to learn more from all of them

Best Regards,
Mans.

I agree Mans. I'm so uninformed when it comes to keris, that I eagerly read everyone's opinions.

Jacob · 29th May 2005, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mans

The nice hilt looks like a Tapukan style. Original by Balinese carving. Combinated with brass. It completely hilt.
I was bidding too for this keris at eBay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESO:IT

.... but I lost it and have no lucky

Beautiful Balinese keris. Congratulations, Jacob.

Regards,
Mans.

Condolences would be more in order. Here is what it actually looks like.
Anyone might have suggestions on how to restore torn silverwork?

mhm27 · 10th June 2005, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob

Now that the auction is over and it's legal to post: has anyone
seen a hilt like this before (combination Cecanginan and Gerantiman).

I`m new with this, but what i am seeing is very beautiful and wish i could own the keris but i believe that the it`s expensive.

Rick · 10th June 2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mhm27

I`m new with this, but what i am seeing is very beautiful and wish i could own the keris but i believe that the it`s expensive.

There are new ones just like this being made today in your part of the world .

And yes, they are somewhat expensive even in Indo .
Quality is quality no matter whether old or new .

9th March 2005, 04:33 PM	#1
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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	Sometimes you just get a feeling . I'm not saying that it isn't exquisite work or not worth the money paid . It just looks new , the blade appears perfectly smooth yet it isn't polished . The wood work on the ukiran looks softly carved rather than sharp carving that is worn with age and it seems ill fitted to the metal cap . The pendokok may be older as it seems to show some staining . The metalwork on the ukiran seems just not quite as good as it should be considering the overall impression this piece should make . There seems to be no patina present on most of the piece . These are just the observations of a Westerner and should be taken as such , an opinion . Last edited by Rick; 15th March 2005 at 04:22 AM.

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Sang Keris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indonesia Posts: 46	Up to you ! Last edited by Sang Keris; 15th March 2005 at 01:00 PM.

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15th March 2005, 02:11 AM	#2
Mans Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Java Posts: 137	The nice hilt looks like a Tapukan style. Original by Balinese carving. Combinated with brass. It completely hilt. I was bidding too for this keris at eBay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESO:IT .... but I lost it and have no lucky Beautiful Balinese keris. Congratulations, Jacob. Regards, Mans.