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			Hi all, as usual I am showing my significant ignorance (and deeper curiosity)what would the Kopi lovers say are the characteristic features of Minangkabau keris. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	cheers DrD  | 
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			Slim, sharp & real user  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Minangkabau keris, have a myriad of influence, Javanese, Buginese, Makassar and other Sumatran influences.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  There are more 'patrem' sized kerises than the regular longer type kerises, possibly due to the matriarchal system which is practiced there. The more common ones are the bahari-class blades, which have a similar style like the keris panjang. In Peninsular Malaysia, the bahari-class are known as anak alang. As for the Javanese looking 'patrem' sized ones, a luk 3 are fairly common. The sheath have a peculiar distinct shapes. There are a few variants. For details, I would suggest getting one of these references: 1) Karsten Sejr Jensen's, Krisdisk. 2) Vanna Ghiringhelli's, The Invincible Krises 2 Although The Invincible Krises 2 is not out yet, form what I was informed, it covers a fair bit of Minangkabau pieces, as well.    
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			The Invincible Krises 2 is out, at least I have received my copy this week and I doubt I am a privilege customer. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Worth having. Good photos Michel  | 
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			Michel, Switzerland is nearer than Singapore, maybe mine is on its way, and I'm not a privileged customer too.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  I guess that it will come sooner or later, but I prefer sooner.  
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			Still waiting for my copy here in the USA ...   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
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			Thanks guys  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I have both 1) Karsten Sejr Jensen's, Krisdisk and 2) Vanna Ghiringhelli's, The Invincible Krises 2 on order, so will look forwards to learning more on lots of things when they arrive. cheers DrD  | 
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