Help with yatagans' inscriptions

TVV · 14th July 2007, 07:05 PM

Second yatagan, and a stamp from the third yatagan.

Battara · 14th July 2007, 07:15 PM

W W!

Are those 4 rows of twist core I see!?!? Please show the rest of the sword!

TVV · 14th July 2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

W W!

Are those 4 rows of twist core I see!?!? Please show the rest of the sword!

I am not sure Jose, I think this pattern is referred to as Turksih Ribbon. Whatever the case, it certainly took a skillfull smith to produce this lovely blade, and hopefully we may learn his name if the inscription is translated.
Regards,
Teodor

Battara · 15th July 2007, 09:08 PM

The second one with walrus ivory looks Balkan by the ear profile.

TVV · 15th July 2007, 09:36 PM

They are all Balkan, collected in Bulgaria, with details such as villages where these were found available for a few of them. Of course, they could have travelled from one place to another in the past, but I Believe they were all made in the Balkans. Based on examples, walrus hilted yatagans are generally from the Western Balkans, such as Bosnia, and in the Eastern Balkans the hilts are mostly from dark horn - predominantly cow or buffalo, although on one of the examples pictured, which has the smallest ears, the hilt is made of rhino horn.

Flavio · 15th July 2007, 09:49 PM

Hello Teodor, could you post some pictures of the rhino horn handle? Thank you

TVV · 15th July 2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Flavio

Hello Teodor, could you post some pictures of the rhino horn handle? Thank you

This is the only picture I currently have.

Richard Furrer · 17th August 2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

W W!

Are those 4 rows of twist core I see!?!? Please show the rest of the sword!

I count five on the upper and six on the next sword with a back and edge welded on as well.

Ric

TVV · 11th December 2007, 07:50 PM

I am afraid my friend has developped an addiction to damascus yatagans now and he is on a quest to acquire them all. Here is his latest acquisition and I believe this time the yatagan originates from Asia Minor as opposed to the Balkans. Here are some pictures along with the usual request for translation - I have not lost hope yet.
Teodor

Dom · 31st March 2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TVV

Here are some pictures along with the usual request for translation Teodor

Hi Teodor
sorry, but even don't seems to be arabic

à +

Dom

attached; one pic of a series from 3

TVV · 14th July 2007, 07:16 PM

And the inscription on the 4th piece, followed by pictures of the yatagans.

Zifir · 13th December 2007, 10:20 PM

Hi,
The inscription is "amel-e elhac mustafa, sahib ahmed aga" [made by mustafa the pilgrim, owner ahmed aga]

the date is partly erased, I could only make out the number "88" at the very end, and it's probably 1288 hejira= 1871-1872

14th July 2007, 07:05 PM	#1
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	Second yatagan, and a stamp from the third yatagan. Attached Images

11th December 2007, 07:50 PM	#9
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	I am afraid my friend has developped an addiction to damascus yatagans now and he is on a quest to acquire them all. Here is his latest acquisition and I believe this time the yatagan originates from Asia Minor as opposed to the Balkans. Here are some pictures along with the usual request for translation - I have not lost hope yet. Teodor Attached Images

14th July 2007, 07:16 PM	#11
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	And the inscription on the 4th piece, followed by pictures of the yatagans. Attached Images

13th December 2007, 10:20 PM	#12
Zifir Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	Hi, The inscription is "amel-e elhac mustafa, sahib ahmed aga" [made by mustafa the pilgrim, owner ahmed aga] the date is partly erased, I could only make out the number "88" at the very end, and it's probably 1288 hejira= 1871-1872 Attached Images

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14th July 2007, 07:15 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	W W! Are those 4 rows of twist core I see!?!? Please show the rest of the sword!

15th July 2007, 09:08 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	The second one with walrus ivory looks Balkan by the ear profile.

15th July 2007, 09:36 PM	#5
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	They are all Balkan, collected in Bulgaria, with details such as villages where these were found available for a few of them. Of course, they could have travelled from one place to another in the past, but I Believe they were all made in the Balkans. Based on examples, walrus hilted yatagans are generally from the Western Balkans, such as Bosnia, and in the Eastern Balkans the hilts are mostly from dark horn - predominantly cow or buffalo, although on one of the examples pictured, which has the smallest ears, the hilt is made of rhino horn.

15th July 2007, 09:49 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Teodor, could you post some pictures of the rhino horn handle? Thank you