an khanda sword

ALEX · 3rd July 2007, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katana

In one of the pictures, the 'patterning' seems to be 'raised'. Stefan if your rub your fingernail across the blade does it feel smooth or rough ?

The condition of the sword, overall, is exceptional, and, as has already been said, looks relatively new.

I took the liberty of enlarging and cropping one of the pictures of the blade

Katana has a very good point. Stefan, please inspect the surface of the blade closely for ANY uneven or raised formations. It also may appear as acid etch on the photo. As in the following close-up of an Indian Tegha: it is real wootz (an Indian wootz), but it appears as acid-etched on the picture.

galvano · 3rd July 2007, 05:51 PM

it is "dendritic wootz"
galvano

Battara · 3rd July 2007, 10:27 PM

I'm still in the "false wootz" camp. We need Ann, Rsword, or Artzi here on this one. I have seen wax resist patterns identical to these examples.

dralin23 · 9th July 2007, 09:05 PM

hi all,
at first sorry for the late answers from me, i was one week not at home!! and now,
thank you all for your answers and opinions because these sword. it was an great help for me even then i must listen that the blade is possible false wootz. maybe it is realy so. in the last days i looked in some books in the hope i can find such an wootz pattern but i must see that the typical wood like patern from true wootz steel isn´t at the surface from these blade. these pattern shows nearby like the pattern at the blade from the tegha from alex. you can feel it with the finger tips.
one question was (how is the lenght from these khanda) it is over all 91cm, the blade is 69cm and at the top it is 6,5cm wide. it shows not newly made and also the koftgari si not new made.you can find these khanda pattern in the book from a.c. tirri ( islamic arms) you can see some wear patern. i ask me why should used in such an mounting an false wootz blade?

rand · 31st July 2007, 02:52 AM

Is this the condition blade was in when you purchased it? Was there previously a light layer of rust that was removed? It may be the lighting, but the color of the metal looks a dull grey with no luster, not the hard shine of smooth metal I would expect, that could be caused from applying a rust remover like naval jelly to take rust from intricate goldwork.

The blade definately is false damascus, the color of the gold and the style of the decoration appear 19th century. Nice khanda....

rand

dralin23 · 31st July 2007, 07:53 PM

hi rand
yes these pictures shows these sword in these condition like i bought it for one year at an antique show in germany. the blade wasn´t newly etched than at the backsite from the blade are old gark rustdots. i don´t know if it is an parade sword ore for the palace guard was made. unfortunatly i can´t find an realy good book over khanda ore other maratha and rajasthan weapons. can someone offert me such an book??

stefan

3rd July 2007, 05:51 PM	#2
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	katana it is "dendritic wootz" galvano

9th July 2007, 09:05 PM	#4
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 204	khanda sword hi all, at first sorry for the late answers from me, i was one week not at home!! and now, thank you all for your answers and opinions because these sword. it was an great help for me even then i must listen that the blade is possible false wootz. maybe it is realy so. in the last days i looked in some books in the hope i can find such an wootz pattern but i must see that the typical wood like patern from true wootz steel isn´t at the surface from these blade. these pattern shows nearby like the pattern at the blade from the tegha from alex. you can feel it with the finger tips. one question was (how is the lenght from these khanda) it is over all 91cm, the blade is 69cm and at the top it is 6,5cm wide. it shows not newly made and also the koftgari si not new made.you can find these khanda pattern in the book from a.c. tirri ( islamic arms) you can see some wear patern. i ask me why should used in such an mounting an false wootz blade? Attached Images

31st July 2007, 02:52 AM	#5
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Khanda with Gold Koftgari Is this the condition blade was in when you purchased it? Was there previously a light layer of rust that was removed? It may be the lighting, but the color of the metal looks a dull grey with no luster, not the hard shine of smooth metal I would expect, that could be caused from applying a rust remover like naval jelly to take rust from intricate goldwork. The blade definately is false damascus, the color of the gold and the style of the decoration appear 19th century. Nice khanda.... rand

31st July 2007, 07:53 PM	#6
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 204	khanda hi rand yes these pictures shows these sword in these condition like i bought it for one year at an antique show in germany. the blade wasn´t newly etched than at the backsite from the blade are old gark rustdots. i don´t know if it is an parade sword ore for the palace guard was made. unfortunatly i can´t find an realy good book over khanda ore other maratha and rajasthan weapons. can someone offert me such an book?? stefan

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3rd July 2007, 10:27 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	I'm still in the "false wootz" camp. We need Ann, Rsword, or Artzi here on this one. I have seen wax resist patterns identical to these examples.