Curved Kinjal ? Any good ?

[Lew]

It sure looks like a jambiya to me and not a kindjal. Her is one I owned some time ago which is more kindjalish than the one you have I like yours and would place it late 19th or early 20th century the scabbard looks Balkin or Kurdish to me.


Lew

[katana]

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

It sure looks like a jambiya to me and not a kindjal. Her is one I owned some time ago which is more kindjalish than the one you have
Lew

Hi Lew and thanks,
for some reason I....like the seller....ID'ed it as a Kindjal... me because of the kindjalish ( nice technical term Lew) hilt. Still, hopefully its better than the picture. Kronckew's Kard (another thread) came from the same source and looks like a nice example

Thats a nice knife Lew , so now the quest is to find a 'proper' Kindjal

Regards David

[kronckew]

i always think of mine as a bendy kindjal


because of the grips studded on one side. guess they are a form of jambiya, but as i do not like yemeni or arabian jambiya, i'll have difficulty of thinking its related to one of these:



saw quite a few of them in saudi shops in al khobar and dammam over the years, always thought they were crude & overdressed....and the silver is a bi**h to keep clean. (i gather there are a few better shops in riyadh but i never got that far west)

[Jim McDougall]

OK guys,
I think your bendy sort of kindjalish dagger has a blade that looks sort of Black Sea yataghanish (although daggerish size)with the subtle recurve and the hilt looks kind of Kurdish-ish. Since the Black Sea 'yataghans' ( also Laz bichagi) are also identified as Kurdish-Armenian, maybe this might be Kurdish-Armenianish janbiyya?

Best regards,
Jim

[spiral]

Kronc, to me it looks typical of a ww2 or earlier Bedouin Shibria or shibrya Ive had quite a few & lots of them were fairly much identicle to yours.

They usualy turn up around the Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Syria & sinai area

They are related to Jambia in a way but I often wonder if they were originaly made from tips of yataghan bayonets?

Ive still got a couple but ones a silver & nielo scabbard & grip & a brass wrapped one with a blade made from a file, but they have the 2 prong top rather than the triangle tip of yours. But many have the triangle tip as well.

Spiral

[Jim McDougall]

Hi Spiral,
I think your thoughts on regional source for these seems pretty much on target. I dont these these pictured have bayonet blades, but I think your observation on the possibility of the yataghan bayonet blades seems plausible on some regional items. The use of bayonet blades on many items seems to occur on a number of many items such as s'boula in Morocco/the 'Zanzibar swords' and others.

Best regards,
Jim

[spiral]

I agree Jim That Kronckews Shibria is certanly not made from a bayonet, my poorly described point was I wonder it that was what the first original early ones were made from.

I am sure many French Yataghans would have been in that area? Syria , Lebanon etc?

Spiral