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kino · 20th April 2007, 12:37 AM

[QUOTE=Rick]Bone or ivory pommel?
The center looks kind of gray, and along with that plug.....

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What are you trying to say Rick

DaveS · 20th April 2007, 03:55 AM

Michael: The kris looks to me to have been made in sulu, but i wouldn't be surprised if it was from N. Borneo given the close proximity to the sulu island chain.

DaveS · 20th April 2007, 04:08 AM

Jose: In the pictures i sent to you last year, there was one of a Maranau kris with an octagonal silver grip with gold bands and a horn jungayyan handle but from what i can remember the okir was almost the same as on this sulu kris. I wonder if the closeness of the two groups might account for this similarity, as i have never really seen much difference in the okir decoration. Maybe i just never paid that much attention............Dave.

Battara · 20th April 2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveS

Jose: In the pictures i sent to you last year, there was one of a Maranau kris with an octagonal silver grip with gold bands and a horn jungayyan handle but from what i can remember the okir was almost the same as on this sulu kris. I wonder if the closeness of the two groups might account for this similarity, as i have never really seen much difference in the okir decoration. Maybe i just never paid that much attention............Dave.

Well geographically speaking the 2 groups are not that close. The Maranao and Maguindanao are closer and do great chasing work. However, their form of okir is different than that of the Sulu group. I am basing my observations on the style of okir used which is more in line with the Sulu group. There is an example of a Sulu kris in Cato that has a nearly identical motif on the silver bands (although I am not in what my wife calls the library/armoury to get the page number).

VVV · 20th April 2007, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveS

Michael: The kris looks to me to have been made in sulu, but i wouldn't be surprised if it was from N. Borneo given the close proximity to the sulu island chain.

Dave,

I don't doubt that the blade is Sulu. It was the specific "dress" with the hilt variation that I speculated could come from Sabah based on the resembling kris I have seen in other collections.

Michael

Rick · 20th April 2007, 04:29 AM

[QUOTE=kino]

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Originally Posted by Rick

Bone or ivory pommel?
The center looks kind of gray, and along with that plug.....

QUOTE]

What are you trying to say Rick

Just a simple question Kino.

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20th April 2007, 12:37 AM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,025	[QUOTE=Rick]Bone or ivory pommel? The center looks kind of gray, and along with that plug..... QUOTE] What are you trying to say Rick

20th April 2007, 03:55 AM	#2
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Michael: The kris looks to me to have been made in sulu, but i wouldn't be surprised if it was from N. Borneo given the close proximity to the sulu island chain.

20th April 2007, 04:08 AM	#3
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Jose: In the pictures i sent to you last year, there was one of a Maranau kris with an octagonal silver grip with gold bands and a horn jungayyan handle but from what i can remember the okir was almost the same as on this sulu kris. I wonder if the closeness of the two groups might account for this similarity, as i have never really seen much difference in the okir decoration. Maybe i just never paid that much attention............Dave.