TIMONIUM 2007 - FROM A EUROPEAN POINT OF VIEW

B.I · 1st April 2007, 08:43 AM

Hi Michal,
I would love to have heard your talk, as it is a subject that is so closely related to 'Oriental' arms, and yet so easily roped under the Western banner and bypassed. Also, its a subject I would love to learn more about.
I just have to figure a way to get you to England to do the same!!

wolviex · 1st April 2007, 10:45 AM

Thank you for kind words and the picture - at last!

Brian - the entire lecture will be available here soon, I suppose

VANDOO · 1st April 2007, 05:06 PM

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR PRESENTATION POSTED SO I CAN CATCH UP ON THE PARTS I MISSED. I WAS VERY INTERESTED AND THE PRESENTATION WAS VERY GOOD BUT I KEPT FADING IN AND OUT AS I HAD JUST FINISHED RUNNING THE GAUNTLET THRU NEWARK AIRPORT AND HAD BEEN WITHOUT SLEEP AND MOSTLY ON THE MOVE FOR 40 HOURS AT THE TIME OF THE TALK. SO MY NODDING OFF AND ABOUT FALLING OUT OF MY CHAIR WAS NOT BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION WAS LONG OR BOREING JUST PROOF THAT A 60 YEAR OLD CAN'T STAY AWAKE FOR EVER EVEN IF YOU HAD DANCING GIRLS UP THERE I AM AFRAID I WOULD HAVE NODDED OFF.

THE MUSEUM DOES INDEED HAVE SOME VERY BEAUTIFUL OBJECTS FROM A RICH CULTURE THAT WE HEAR VERY LITTLE OF TODAY. THANKS FOR BRINGING US A GLIMPSE OF THE HISTORY AND ARTEFACTS OF THAT CULTURE. PERHAPS SOMEDAY I CAN VISIT THE MUSEUM AND PERHAPS TRY ON THE COOL HAT YOU WERE WEARING.

dennee · 1st April 2007, 11:45 PM

Michal,

It was an excellent presentation, very thorough for an overview, and very well illustrated.

I think you left us a bit speechless, because I think Polish arms--eastern-influenced or otherwise--are pretty rare among our crowd.

It was fascinating how persistent was emulation of the Ottomans, in particular, given that they were enemies. There are certainly many historical examples of enemies emulating each other, but that it continued over centuries and extended to nearly so many aspects of tactics, organization, arms and dress is certainly interesting.

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1st April 2007, 08:43 AM	#1
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	Hi Michal, I would love to have heard your talk, as it is a subject that is so closely related to 'Oriental' arms, and yet so easily roped under the Western banner and bypassed. Also, its a subject I would love to learn more about. I just have to figure a way to get you to England to do the same!!

1st April 2007, 10:45 AM	#2
wolviex Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 418	Thank you for kind words and the picture - at last! Brian - the entire lecture will be available here soon, I suppose

1st April 2007, 05:06 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR PRESENTATION POSTED SO I CAN CATCH UP ON THE PARTS I MISSED. I WAS VERY INTERESTED AND THE PRESENTATION WAS VERY GOOD BUT I KEPT FADING IN AND OUT AS I HAD JUST FINISHED RUNNING THE GAUNTLET THRU NEWARK AIRPORT AND HAD BEEN WITHOUT SLEEP AND MOSTLY ON THE MOVE FOR 40 HOURS AT THE TIME OF THE TALK. SO MY NODDING OFF AND ABOUT FALLING OUT OF MY CHAIR WAS NOT BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION WAS LONG OR BOREING JUST PROOF THAT A 60 YEAR OLD CAN'T STAY AWAKE FOR EVER EVEN IF YOU HAD DANCING GIRLS UP THERE I AM AFRAID I WOULD HAVE NODDED OFF. THE MUSEUM DOES INDEED HAVE SOME VERY BEAUTIFUL OBJECTS FROM A RICH CULTURE THAT WE HEAR VERY LITTLE OF TODAY. THANKS FOR BRINGING US A GLIMPSE OF THE HISTORY AND ARTEFACTS OF THAT CULTURE. PERHAPS SOMEDAY I CAN VISIT THE MUSEUM AND PERHAPS TRY ON THE COOL HAT YOU WERE WEARING.

1st April 2007, 11:45 PM	#4
dennee Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 186	Michal, It was an excellent presentation, very thorough for an overview, and very well illustrated. I think you left us a bit speechless, because I think Polish arms--eastern-influenced or otherwise--are pretty rare among our crowd. It was fascinating how persistent was emulation of the Ottomans, in particular, given that they were enemies. There are certainly many historical examples of enemies emulating each other, but that it continued over centuries and extended to nearly so many aspects of tactics, organization, arms and dress is certainly interesting.