Unusual old barung

Naga Basuki · 23rd February 2005, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Thanks Federico. I like your line of reasoning -- maybe enough restoration already to this one. Then again, Battara does do wonderful work. Decisions, decisions, decisions.

No question in my mind. With the incredible work Battara can do, restore that barong! The only decision would be cost vs wallet resources.

CharlesS · 23rd February 2005, 03:04 PM

....first let me say I bow my head in shame at what my "southern brutha from anotha mutha"(RSword) said above!!....good lawd Rick!

As for restoration I agree with the "leave it be" crowd. Were a portion of the cockatou missing, I'd say go for it, but in this case you would be essentially rebuilding the most "artsie" part of the hilt, making it "new". This would only be for some one intending to keep the barong for a very long time, accepting its restored features. Once such a change is made the collectiblity of the barong will go down in the eyes of many....one, because of its new addition, regardless of quality, and secondly because there is no guarantee the restoration is correct to what the original hilt actually had..

Battara · 23rd February 2005, 10:56 PM

You people are wonderful for my self-esteem.

Obvioiusly I am on the side of restoration. There are many that do accept restoration, provided that the restoration would not damage what is already there nor takes away from the piece. Artzi does a lot of restorations as well as many on this form besides me.

When it comes to ivory on this piece, I would have to look into the amount for pre-ban ivory. Silver or even dark wood with ivory pieces would be a little cheaper. This piece does not seem to need too much restoration except for the missing pommel. Of course one other thing to consider is that restorations and replacements happened over the life of many pieces. Here I especially see Charles' point (every pun intended

). IF I were to do an ivory pommel, I would recommend a slimmer and less elaborate ivory pommel than that found on Artzi's website. If wood, maybe dark wood with ivory pieces, if silver, then....oh, yeah, silver.

Ian · 25th February 2005, 04:25 AM

Battara:

If I have room in my case I will bring it to Timonium and we can discuss.

Ian.

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23rd February 2005, 03:04 PM	#2
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	....first let me say I bow my head in shame at what my "southern brutha from anotha mutha"(RSword) said above!!....good lawd Rick! As for restoration I agree with the "leave it be" crowd. Were a portion of the cockatou missing, I'd say go for it, but in this case you would be essentially rebuilding the most "artsie" part of the hilt, making it "new". This would only be for some one intending to keep the barong for a very long time, accepting its restored features. Once such a change is made the collectiblity of the barong will go down in the eyes of many....one, because of its new addition, regardless of quality, and secondly because there is no guarantee the restoration is correct to what the original hilt actually had..

23rd February 2005, 10:56 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	You people are wonderful for my self-esteem. Obvioiusly I am on the side of restoration. There are many that do accept restoration, provided that the restoration would not damage what is already there nor takes away from the piece. Artzi does a lot of restorations as well as many on this form besides me. When it comes to ivory on this piece, I would have to look into the amount for pre-ban ivory. Silver or even dark wood with ivory pieces would be a little cheaper. This piece does not seem to need too much restoration except for the missing pommel. Of course one other thing to consider is that restorations and replacements happened over the life of many pieces. Here I especially see Charles' point (every pun intended ). IF I were to do an ivory pommel, I would recommend a slimmer and less elaborate ivory pommel than that found on Artzi's website. If wood, maybe dark wood with ivory pieces, if silver, then....oh, yeah, silver.

25th February 2005, 04:25 AM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,362	Battara: If I have room in my case I will bring it to Timonium and we can discuss. Ian.