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|  5th January 2007, 05:42 PM | #17 | 
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			Thanks David very interesting, rather him than me, I prefer blue jeans over brown trousers   Another problem to add to the mix.  It is often said and in good sources that the "lion spear" type did not appear in use untill the very late 19th century.  The old form being just as big a spear but a shorter broad leaf blade.  Is this also a "lion spear"?  One might be able to use it in the same way. | 
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