First Westerner to the Philippines?

MABAGANI · 14th December 2006, 05:48 AM

Some of Magellan's native recruits stayed behind to help the retreat. What probably saved them from a hunt and annihilation was the rest of the spectators sitting off the coast.
Ever visit the site of the battle? I was there about ten years ago.

Mark · 14th December 2006, 03:39 PM

This "debate" is digressing into a sand box argument. We are well-past discussing the facts of the arrival of Magellan, and whether or not he was the first European. We are also well off any discussion of the weapons involved. Enough with the bickering over irrelevant issues, or I'm going to start suspending people.

MABAGANI · 14th December 2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark

This "debate" is digressing into a sand box argument. We are well-past discussing the facts of the arrival of Magellan, and whether or not he was the first European. We are also well off any discussion of the weapons involved. Enough with the bickering over irrelevant issues, or I'm going to start suspending people.

?In the original post before splitting I tried to bring the discussion back about the relevance of ethnographic weaponry and Lapu Lapu vs. Magellan's landing in the HOS, (exploration) which was way off topic in the EEWRS forum too, in the first place. Most made the switch towards weaponry and the battle but some stayed with discussing exploration. Why would exchanging ideas about a battle with ethnographic weaponry warrant a suspension?

Battara · 17th December 2006, 08:05 PM

HOS?

Bill · 14th December 2006, 03:40 PM

Been to Cebu City, but by land, crossing from Negros. Tried to get there but the people I was with, had no interest. Have seen how long stretchs of sandy beach quickly turn to jagged rocks and back to sandy beachs, assume it has to do with ancient volcanos.

14th December 2006, 03:39 PM	#2
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Moderation alert This "debate" is digressing into a sand box argument. We are well-past discussing the facts of the arrival of Magellan, and whether or not he was the first European. We are also well off any discussion of the weapons involved. Enough with the bickering over irrelevant issues, or I'm going to start suspending people.

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14th December 2006, 05:48 AM	#1
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	Some of Magellan's native recruits stayed behind to help the retreat. What probably saved them from a hunt and annihilation was the rest of the spectators sitting off the coast. Ever visit the site of the battle? I was there about ten years ago.

17th December 2006, 08:05 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	HOS?

14th December 2006, 03:40 PM	#5
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Been to Cebu City, but by land, crossing from Negros. Tried to get there but the people I was with, had no interest. Have seen how long stretchs of sandy beach quickly turn to jagged rocks and back to sandy beachs, assume it has to do with ancient volcanos.