Tumbok Lada classification

drdavid · 20th November 2006, 10:36 AM

Hi Michael
you are correct mine does not have the feel or look of a slashing weapon, but as a stabbing one it would be effective. Van Zonneveld's description of a Golok Rembau sounds pretty good, a bit bigger than a Tumbok Lada but similar shape. Thanks for your help.
cheers
David

CharlesS · 20th November 2006, 01:37 PM

Let me throw another term into the mix...'kirah'....I am not exactly sure how this differs from a sewar.

Any input Michael?

Lovely pieces, as usual, by the way!

Correction edit: Sorry, meant 'karih'.

VVV · 20th November 2006, 02:08 PM

Thanks Charles,

Are you sure that it's Kirah and not Karih?
What's the reference for this name?

Michael

Alam Shah · 20th November 2006, 02:58 PM

An example of a Karih from Sumatra. Note: shorter curled hilt.

A close-up of the blade.

A close-up of the hilt and upper-sheath, made of buffalo horn.

Rick · 20th November 2006, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

An example of a Karih from Sumatra. Note: shorter curled hilt.

A close-up of the blade.

Now this piece looks similar to the example showed in post #2.
What d'you think Alam Shah ?

Alam Shah · 20th November 2006, 03:33 PM

Rick,
Your blade does have its similarities, especially the profile of the blade.
Blade-design suggests that it might be a Karih, after all.

VVV · 20th November 2006, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

An example of a Karih from Sumatra. Note: shorter curled hilt.

Shahrial,

Isn't that my Karih in your post?
Or do you have its twin?

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

Michael

Alam Shah · 20th November 2006, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VVV

Shahrial,
Isn't that my Karih in your post? Or do you have its twin?

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

Michael

Yes! it is, after a closer look.

(Sorry I didn't know it was yours). Pictures are linked from Persada Pusaka auction gallery in KampungNet.
So you're the lucky owner of this fine Karih. Congratulation!

I didn't pay attention on your Karih during the auction, was concentrating on acquiring Lot 111.

VVV · 20th November 2006, 04:16 PM

Shahrial,

OK, that explains it.
Lot 111 is a very nice Keris!

Back to Rick's example, don't Karih have pamor on their blade?

Michael

20th November 2006, 02:58 PM	#4
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	An example of a Karih from Sumatra. Note: shorter curled hilt. A close-up of the blade. A close-up of the hilt and upper-sheath, made of buffalo horn. Last edited by Alam Shah; 20th November 2006 at 03:09 PM.

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20th November 2006, 10:36 AM	#1
drdavid Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Hi Michael you are correct mine does not have the feel or look of a slashing weapon, but as a stabbing one it would be effective. Van Zonneveld's description of a Golok Rembau sounds pretty good, a bit bigger than a Tumbok Lada but similar shape. Thanks for your help. cheers David

20th November 2006, 01:37 PM	#2
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Let me throw another term into the mix...'kirah'....I am not exactly sure how this differs from a sewar. Any input Michael? Lovely pieces, as usual, by the way! Correction edit: Sorry, meant 'karih'. Last edited by CharlesS; 21st November 2006 at 01:33 PM.

20th November 2006, 02:08 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Charles, Are you sure that it's Kirah and not Karih? What's the reference for this name? Michael

20th November 2006, 03:33 PM	#6
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Rick, Your blade does have its similarities, especially the profile of the blade. Blade-design suggests that it might be a Karih, after all.

20th November 2006, 04:16 PM	#9
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Shahrial, OK, that explains it. Lot 111 is a very nice Keris! Back to Rick's example, don't Karih have pamor on their blade? Michael