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11th October 2006, 03:06 PM
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Nice Gile'. Yes, it's an AFAR/ISSA knife from the Danakil area. Judging from the style of the grip and the grooves on the blade, I would say it comes from an area close to or overlapping with Ethiopian border. Just a guess. The central portion of the grip looks like..... RHINO. Would have to take a very close look.
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11th October 2006, 04:28 PM
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The central portion of the grip looks like..... RHINO. Would have to take a very close look.[/QUOTE]
Picture added up top. |
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11th October 2006, 04:51 PM
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Is it possible to get a photo of the end grain Louie? {on the pommel perhaps.?}
Even some cow & buffalo horn can be fiberous, the only 100% certen identification I know is a close up of the end grain. The fibre in matrix appearance is ummistakable.  Whether translucent ,opaque, black,brown,green or orangey yellow the texture like orange skin remains the same. Spiral |
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11th October 2006, 05:11 PM
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The dagger is capped off with cow horn at either end so there is no way to tell. |
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11th October 2006, 05:18 PM
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My rhino horn does not have this orange peel surface. I shall try to show this latter. I know some African cattle can have horns 32" long but they are hollow.
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11th October 2006, 05:27 PM
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Thanks Louie, I am not confident enough to offer opionion on its side grain.
But yes the orange peel is just visible on the end grain. {crosscut like firewood logs.} I can only say Tim what I have learnt from people who spends thousands of pounds on individual antique rhino horn carvings & who are not intrested in cow or buffalo horn , fakes of which riddle the market. I am always happy to learn more though. Spiral |
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11th October 2006, 05:33 PM
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Throwing knife for French and Belgian fans.
Sorry
Last edited by Tim Simmons; 11th October 2006 at 05:41 PM. Reason: wrong thread |
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15th October 2006, 06:23 PM
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Hi guys. Trying to keep this thread going. There's so much stuff. So, here are three Ethiopian daggers with "fancy" scabbards. They are actually no scabbards at all... Two daggers have their original leather scabbards; one (Hi, Derek) does not. All three daggers have been inserted into the metal sheaths that originally decorated the terminal portion of SWORD scabbards. I have found another dagger like these three. So I have actually documented this practise in four cases. It is unclear, at least to me, how sword furniture was used like this. Two theories: 1) the daggers were produced in this configurations by scabbard makers who had a surplus of these sheaths; 2) they were made using broken swords picked up as throphies on a battlefield. Any other guesses?
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11th October 2006, 05:26 PM
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Whether translucent ,opaque, black,brown,green or orangey yellow the texture like orange skin remains the same.
Spiral[/QUOTE] Spiral The orange peel is from a cross cut against the grain of the horn. So if you cut along the grain lengthwise yo will not see the orange peel effect. Lew |
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