What are these? Indonesian?

Bill M · 10th October 2006, 01:08 PM

Whatever they are, what do you think about the pamor? Quality?

Personally I don't like the carving on the dress. I may mount them in a shadow box frame with the smooth side of the dress out.

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Just got a private email from a man who really knows Indonesian pieces. They are not tombaks according to him. They are more rare, however.

Let's see what other people think.

Any other opinions?

VVV · 10th October 2006, 01:35 PM

"Just got a private email from a man who really knows Indonesian pieces."

Thanks Bill!

Michael

Marcokeris · 10th October 2006, 02:46 PM

About quality of dress is better to say nothing.
Tombaks seems rather new. One pamor is ganggeng kanyut (on the left), the other seems bendo segodo.

Bill M · 10th October 2006, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

About quality of dress is better to say nothing.
Tombaks seems rather new. One pamor is ganggeng kanyut (on the left), the other seems bendo segodo.

Thank you for your info.

I agree about the dress. The best display would be the pieces alone. Second best mounting where the carving is on the inside and out of sight!.

I think that the Javanese and worse yet,, the Madurese (is that a word?) make some awful tourist dress. "Dripping" is a good word here.

According to a very good source who has asked me not to mention his name, these are Bedor --- arrowheads.

Maybe I could get them mounted in arrow shafts. Personally I agree that they may be newer. Always hard to know. I like the quality and the uniqueness. Also nice staining work.

Pusaka · 10th October 2006, 07:57 PM

I thought they were arrow heads too, but ornamental arrow heads. Why would you spend so much time and effort in making arrow heads only to shoot them and it’s gone?

Henk · 10th October 2006, 09:08 PM

I own two oldies of the same size. I did bought them as tombak. The dress is also old. If i look at your examples they look rather new with a good pamor.

The dress......... modern maduran dress. I also would prefer a less fancy dress.

Would like to know what the opinion is of the knowledgeable gentleman about these tombaks.

Would like to learn.

Marcokeris · 16th October 2006, 03:04 PM

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10th October 2006, 01:08 PM	#1
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Whatever they are, what do you think about the pamor? Quality? Personally I don't like the carving on the dress. I may mount them in a shadow box frame with the smooth side of the dress out. ------------------------ Just got a private email from a man who really knows Indonesian pieces. They are not tombaks according to him. They are more rare, however. Let's see what other people think. Any other opinions?

10th October 2006, 01:35 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	"Just got a private email from a man who really knows Indonesian pieces." Thanks Bill! Michael

10th October 2006, 02:46 PM	#3
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	About quality of dress is better to say nothing. Tombaks seems rather new. One pamor is ganggeng kanyut (on the left), the other seems bendo segodo.

10th October 2006, 07:57 PM	#5
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	I thought they were arrow heads too, but ornamental arrow heads. Why would you spend so much time and effort in making arrow heads only to shoot them and it’s gone?

10th October 2006, 09:08 PM	#6
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	I own two oldies of the same size. I did bought them as tombak. The dress is also old. If i look at your examples they look rather new with a good pamor. The dress......... modern maduran dress. I also would prefer a less fancy dress. Would like to know what the opinion is of the knowledgeable gentleman about these tombaks. Would like to learn.

16th October 2006, 03:04 PM	#7
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	An exemple of Yogya walking stick